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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ariosto" data-source="post: 5015227" data-attributes="member: 80487">As I recall, the core 2e books used the same basic 10-foot (or 10-yard) units. I don't remember ever seeing any radically altered move factors in modules. Maybe a variant in a late supplement imposed a "by the the book" tactical grid, but I would assume that -- for use with models and modules alike -- it had an actual scale referent (as in 3e's 5 feet per square).The "whole 9 yards" in 1st ed. AD&D was:(1) Official ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS models are in 1/72 scale, or 6 feet to the inch.(2) Movement rates, ranges and areas of effect in the dungeons are at 10 feet to the "inch" unit in the rules (30 feet or 10 yards outdoors, except for areas of effect unless you're using 1:10 or 1:20 model:man miniature war-game rules with structures scaled to figures rather than to ground scale).(3) "Figure bases are necessarily broad ... Squares of about 1 actual inch are suggested. Each ground scale inch can then be used to equal 3⅓ linear feet." (A standard 10' wide dungeon corridor gets modeled on the tabletop as 3 inches wide, accommodating three figures abreast.)(4) That works fine for frontage (ballpark based on Roman accounts), but ground scale out of figure scale distorts things when you outflank a long, snaky monster -- unless you give it an appropriately deep base.</blockquote>