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Message: <blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 6769877" data-attributes="member: 67338">lets see if that's true...lets take 5 guys, 2 with str 11, 2 with str 13, and 1 with str 16...they all have +2profwe give each a block of wood with an AC 13, and 25hp, first they use a longsword then a short sword...OK, so we have  A and B with +2 vs AC 13 they hit on a 11 or better, and crit on a 20. so 40% of the time damage and 5% two dice of damage... the short sword does on average 3.5 damage... 3.5x.40= 1.4, and 7 on a crit, 7x.05=.35 so 1.75 damage per swing, should take 14-15 swings  when we upgrade to the long swords average become 4.5 and 9, so dpr is 2.25 so 11-12 swingswe have C and D with +3 vs AC 13 they hit on a 10 and crit on a 20 20 45% and 5% short sword is now 4.5 and 8 on a crit, and with the new to hit we have 4.5*.45=2.025  and crit 8*.05=.4 for a dpr of  2.425 so about 10-11 swings the long sword will them be 5.5 and 10 crit so 5.5*.45=2.475 and .5 from a crit for 2.975dpr... 8-9 swingswe have E with +5 vs AC 13, so he almost always hits, and he starts with the short sword, 6.5*.6=3.9 and 10*.05is .5 again so 4.4dpr... 5-6 swings, and the long sword is 7.5*.6= 4.5 and crit is 12*.05=.6 for a staggering dpr of 5.1 4-5 swings...so now at the end of this test, if they all chop wood for a couple hours (I am not picturing cap and iron man in avengers 2) we get an average ofA 14-15 swings of a short sword and 11-12 with the longB 14-15 swings of a short sword and 11-12 with the longC 10-11 swings of a short sword and 8-9 with the longD 10-11 swings of a short sword and 8-9 with the longE  5-6 swings of a short sword and 4-5 with the longin general, the two weapons seem to be little difference, the strength and skill of the user seems to be more so. SInce in game there is not test that can tell str alone (that I know of) then it really like the real world is hard to say... luck matters too... heck if you roll those out and the short sword gets even a bit lucky (an early number of hits or a crit) and there is no way to see these results without weeks of testing in game</blockquote>

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