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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chris Parker" data-source="post: 1563536" data-attributes="member: 19575">Well of course they saw that coming, but what Iajitsu Master worth his salt hasnt checked the WotC website just to make sure they didnt forget?Well... They did.<a href="http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ei/20030902a" target="_blank">http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/ei/20030902a</a>You can surpass 9d6 <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Though that really should be reworked... so that there is a cap on die based on your level. Half level sounds good. (this makes it so that Iajitsu is a good class, instead of a ridiculously unbalanced class).Also... heres a variant to make Rogues a bit nastier. Give them a class skill called Critical Strike, give them extra damage based off of thier result (as per an Iajitsu Master) instead of the silly '+3d6 sneak attack damage' stuff. Dont think sneak attacks should be skill based? Hell, scry is, and it seems to me Crit Strike would be a great, logical place for rogues to dump all those skill points into...Vrecknidj, I highly agree with you on that. The game makes alot more sense if you look at it as a continuing (usually) linear equation. I think the ELH was trying to make it so that you could create your own spells that mixed and matched different abilities. ie- Create a spell that buffs you and debuffs the enemy at the same time as launching a mass teleport spell, or some such (just think of it! a wizard, all with one spell, teleports in on the sleeping PC party, debuffs them, and hits them with a nuke! Obviously, hes been buffed before he came =P )(Also, before I forget, my IajitsuMaster/Dervish (with the obligatory 2 levels in blackguard for the massive saves <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) runs around with dual souldrinkers. And as was confirmed by my post in a different forum (on this board - <a href="http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88842" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=88842</a>) the extra HP stacks. 2d4x5= avg 25 hp / hit. 18 attacks that (with my hitroll) are guaranteed to hit if I can catch em flatfooted... thats an extra 450 hp for me right there.)Now, heres the issue that really gets me. In the DMG, it shows you how much it costs to add certain spells with varying caster levels, effects, uses per day, methods of activation, etc etc onto items. The formula for a Use Activated item (ie, no command word, it just goes to work when you use it) is Spell lvl * Caster lvl * 2000. Hmmm.Unless Im mistaken (again, I do not own any DnD books) one of the examples given for Use Activated items is 'swinging a sword', and even if it isnt, it only makes sense. But.. that isnt close to balanced.Magic Missile is a weak spell. At mid-high end, it simply wont deal much damage. At 9th level it caps at 5d4+5 force damage. But, it seems it would only cost 18K to add Magic Missile onto a bow/sword (down to 2K for 1d4+1 force damage).But lets say your DM makes you check for spell resistance everytime you fire that bow. Well, that sucks, but... for essentially NOTHING at epic, you have a chance (so what if it very well might be a 5% chance?) to deal considerably more damage. Heres an idea. Dont Frenzied Berserkers get an ability that lets them keep on going as long as they are raging ('scuse me, frenzied) no matter what thier HP is? Imagine a Raged, Frenzied, Half Orc Two Handing a (Mercurial Greatsword, Maul, Fullblade, Scythe, etc etc) that causes a fireball everytime he hits with it, with the point of impact where he hit. That NPC wouldnt be around for too long (unless he has a very nice cleric friend with ALOT of heal spells backed up with true ressurections) but hed waste a party in no time... if they werent smart enough to flee.Now. This brings up an interesting question... what about abilities like that on items... cept for EPIC spells?Well, some adjustments would HAVE to be made. You cant just blanket all Epic spells as the same spell level... saying that an unaltered Destroy seed is as powerful as a Destroy seed with d20's of damage instead is plain silly (also, think of how CHEAP a tenth level spell would be at epic to add onto a weapon/armor). So youd have to come up with a method to determine the spells effective level based off of its spellcraft DC. Any suggestions? I tried using Destroy as a base seed, and when I thought I had found an acceptable formula, I went over to energy to check and see if it still made sense... and it was a no go.But heres an idea. Effective Spell Level = 10 + 1/2 days to develop? (or cost to develop / 100,000 if you prefer, or spellcraft DC / 11). Its not -exactly- right, (Vengeful Gaze of God would be level 48 spell for this equation effectively, but then again my 40d20 contigency spell is only level 16 by this reasoning...)Ill run with it for a while. Lets say you have a DC in the low 60's. Totally reasonable, even for a only moderate powergamer. Thats 12 days, so 16 effective spell level.Add this onto an armor. 16*30*2K*10. Well just assume a level 30 caster, and the ten multiplied in there is everyones favorite thing in the whole world - the epic price modifier. *sigh*This is 9.6Million gold. For a spell that does a SIGNIFICANT amount of damage (even if they save on thier save). Lets see, what if the person had decided that all epic spells really were 10th level? Then that just makes it that much cheaper - 6Million.Hmmm. I dont think I need to tell you people how broken that could become.[CODE]And Behold, The Tank Did Not DieSeed: FORTIFYTransmutationSpellcraft DC: 17 (base), +99 extra enhancement bonus to Constitution (+198 DC), three additional participants contributing 9th level spell slots (-51 DC), increase casting time by 10 minutes (-20 DC) = 144Components: V, SCasting Time: 11 minutesRange: TouchTarget or effect: Creature TouchedDuration: 20 hoursSaving Throw: Will negates (harmless)Spell Resistance: No (harmless)Target touched creature gains a +100 enhancement bonus to Constitution.To Develop: 1,296,000 gp; 26 days; 51,840 XP.[/CODE]Thats a +100 enhancement bonus to Con. Thats a +50 mod. That gives a level 30 character 1,500 extra HP. Someone humor me and tell me... how much HP does your average greater diety have?~Chris.</blockquote>

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