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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8605669" data-attributes="member: 6877472">The super guards are kind of a joke, but I have seen games where DM's abjectly refuse to let players just run amok, regardless of how weird it is to have super guards like old school CRPG's (Ultima III requires you to rob a chest in a town, and then you have to try and avoid endlessly spawning guards who can totally murder your party).And yes, I'm aware that humans are a big problem in our own history, but there's no shortage of regular bandits and raiders in D&amp;D before you take into account humanoids and rampaging monsters.As for Dragon vs. town, no, I don't imagine the average dragon is going to be like Smaug and try to burn a town to the ground (though don't forget, he almost succeeded!), they have more efficient ways to deal with annoying humans and the like, but there are big monsters that are basically immune to normal people's ability to harm them.&nbsp; The dragonfear of a big old dragon alone can be impossible for non-adventurers to save against, after all.Again though, this thread is simply a reaction to how everyone has a different view of how things occur in a D&amp;D world.&nbsp; One guy says &quot;high level characters are rare&quot;, great, fantastic, so why don't monsters run amok?&nbsp; Another guy says &quot;well monsters are rare&quot;, to which my response is, then how to the PC's keep running into them?To which yet another individual replies &quot;there are no monsters near major centers of population&quot;.&nbsp; Ok, but why?&quot;Well that's because of high level characters.&quot;Wait...didn't we establish those don't exist?&nbsp; LOL.&nbsp; And yes, I know, that's not the same person saying both things, but in aggregate, any time you have a discussion about these things, someone is going to show up saying &quot;you're wrong, it's not like that because...&quot;, as if the way they see the game is the only possible viewpoint, and the rest of us are madmen.Oh wait.&nbsp; Maybe I am a madman after all!</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8605669, member: 6877472"] The super guards are kind of a joke, but I have seen games where DM's abjectly refuse to let players just run amok, regardless of how weird it is to have super guards like old school CRPG's (Ultima III requires you to rob a chest in a town, and then you have to try and avoid endlessly spawning guards who can totally murder your party). And yes, I'm aware that humans are a big problem in our own history, but there's no shortage of regular bandits and raiders in D&D [B]before[/B] you take into account humanoids and rampaging monsters. As for Dragon vs. town, no, I don't imagine the average dragon is going to be like Smaug and try to burn a town to the ground (though don't forget, he almost succeeded!), they have more efficient ways to deal with annoying humans and the like, but there are big monsters that are basically immune to normal people's ability to harm them. The dragonfear of a big old dragon alone can be impossible for non-adventurers to save against, after all. Again though, this thread is simply a reaction to how everyone has a different view of how things occur in a D&D world. One guy says "high level characters are rare", great, fantastic, so why don't monsters run amok? Another guy says "well monsters are rare", to which my response is, then how to the PC's keep running into them? To which yet another individual replies "there are no monsters near major centers of population". Ok, but why? "Well that's because of high level characters." Wait...didn't we establish those don't exist? LOL. And yes, I know, that's not the same person saying both things, but in aggregate, any time you have a discussion about these things, someone is going to show up saying "you're wrong, it's not like that because...", as if the way they see the game is the only possible viewpoint, and the rest of us are madmen. Oh wait. Maybe I am a madman after all! [/QUOTE]

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