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How common are "petty" spell casters?
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<blockquote data-quote="doctorbadwolf" data-source="post: 8801805" data-attributes="member: 6704184"><p>I agree. I also think that the simple fact that you can be a caster with roughly 1/3 the potential magical power as a wizard, or just learn to cast a few spells, or just learn how to successfully cast rituals, means that spellcasting isn't more rare than, say, a weaponsmith or silversmith. Rarer than a cobbler, in many worlds, but not rarer than the less common tradecrafts.</p><p></p><p>Yep. Judging from another magic thread ongoing right now, I think part of the problem is that people just assume that everyone else means the same thing when they say "rare". I mean, I don't know what percentage of the populace are smiths, but I know that they're common enough that you can go get smithwork done if you really need it and have something to trade or a good reputation for paying your debts. You might need to travel to a nearby town, and if you've bad luck you might have to go to town, but you can go get an itinerary, spend a day or two traveling, and get the work done. And this sort of travel isn't uncommon in most of Medieval Europe. Few people did it repeatedly, and fewer still traveled outside their linguistic/cultural region, but the point is that you can go find a smith if your village doesn't have one and the nearest farrier isn't confident in doing the work you need done. </p><p></p><p>"Relatively rare" as described in the DMG seems, to me, to describe roughly the same level of rarity as the less common tradecrafts, at the rarest. </p><p></p><p>I mean, you could call blacksmiths relatively rare in 900CE Wales, but they aren't so rare they don't have an impact on the world, and there are many more farriers, tinkers with a bit of basic smithing knowledge, and failed apprentices who can do in a pinch.</p><p></p><p>If you don't want to start a discussion with me after I bailed on the last one, I get it, but I am very curious about this. It seems much more likely to me that wizards in a rare-caster world would seek apprentices, not hoard their knowledge. Or rather, that there would be wizards doing both extremes and all points in between. I wonder why you think that it's likely that most would be at one end of the spectrum?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="doctorbadwolf, post: 8801805, member: 6704184"] I agree. I also think that the simple fact that you can be a caster with roughly 1/3 the potential magical power as a wizard, or just learn to cast a few spells, or just learn how to successfully cast rituals, means that spellcasting isn't more rare than, say, a weaponsmith or silversmith. Rarer than a cobbler, in many worlds, but not rarer than the less common tradecrafts. Yep. Judging from another magic thread ongoing right now, I think part of the problem is that people just assume that everyone else means the same thing when they say "rare". I mean, I don't know what percentage of the populace are smiths, but I know that they're common enough that you can go get smithwork done if you really need it and have something to trade or a good reputation for paying your debts. You might need to travel to a nearby town, and if you've bad luck you might have to go to town, but you can go get an itinerary, spend a day or two traveling, and get the work done. And this sort of travel isn't uncommon in most of Medieval Europe. Few people did it repeatedly, and fewer still traveled outside their linguistic/cultural region, but the point is that you can go find a smith if your village doesn't have one and the nearest farrier isn't confident in doing the work you need done. "Relatively rare" as described in the DMG seems, to me, to describe roughly the same level of rarity as the less common tradecrafts, at the rarest. I mean, you could call blacksmiths relatively rare in 900CE Wales, but they aren't so rare they don't have an impact on the world, and there are many more farriers, tinkers with a bit of basic smithing knowledge, and failed apprentices who can do in a pinch. If you don't want to start a discussion with me after I bailed on the last one, I get it, but I am very curious about this. It seems much more likely to me that wizards in a rare-caster world would seek apprentices, not hoard their knowledge. Or rather, that there would be wizards doing both extremes and all points in between. I wonder why you think that it's likely that most would be at one end of the spectrum? [/QUOTE]
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