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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8049641" data-attributes="member: 326">Hey all,I know a bit of a random post here. But I am designing parts of my new (Epic Level) Adventure Bestiary (for 5E) and its becoming obvious that not all the monsters I have planned can be epic and even more obvious that not all of them should even be epic.I'm working under the following assumption:Intermediate God= CR 27-30Lesser God = CR 24-27Demigod = CR 20-24Quasi-Deity = CR 17-20Hero-Deity = CR 14-17Obviously there is a slight overlap there, also CR is not the same thing as Level - eyeballing it looks to be approx. 1 CR = x1.5 Levels.But in putting together the Adventure Bestiary I'd guesstimate maybe half the 30-40 entries are CR 10-20.Now looking at the 5E Monster Manual, outside of Dragons there is a complete dearth of monsters above CR 10. I don't know how much this was solved in later sourcebooks (?) but personally I don't like numerical inflation for its own sake. A monster's power should make sense in the context of its ecology and vice versa.One monster in this Bestiary is the Varcolac a sort of Planar Werewolf-Vampire hybrid. Such a monster may already exist in 5E, although whether they do or not I have my own ideas for them. But I don't see myself justifying them at higher than CR 12 - which is lower than the CR 13 Vampire in the MM (although that was clearly a Vampire Lord and not a regular vampire).Anyone have any thoughts on Monster Challenge Rating in 5E?</blockquote>

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