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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 8050413" data-attributes="member: 326">Howdy aco175! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> Why though? Personally I think there are a lot of discrepancies within various CRs.ie. Lich CR 21, Orcus CR 26I think the Lich should be in around CR 12+.But if the question is do we base everything around the exaggerated CRs like the Lich (and thus gods in the CR 30+ region). Or do we base everything around the likes of Orcus (a Lesser Power) being CR 26.I prefer the latter because:1. The former is simply number inflation2. The latter makes Epic play more accessibleI agree. But I don't see 99.99% of Level 8 groups defeating 'my' version of Hercules even if I placed him in the CR 20-24 bracket.But that brings into call what is an Epic Monster?If an epic PC is Level 21 (Or Level 20 with epic boons) then surely by default an epic monster is anything that can 'challenge' a group of such characters.Well maybe...of course players could themselves become deities and gain those powers.</blockquote>