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<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 8050520" data-attributes="member: 1210">Hey U_K!I agree that there is a real dearth of epic monsters in 5e, but also that most monsters don't need to be epic. I've converted hundreds, maybe thousands, of monsters from older editions and my own homebrews, and here are the epic critters on my &quot;monsters by CR&quot; list, including those from the MM. As you can see, I've gone up to CR 42; but that includes any number of things that I put in the &quot;god-killer&quot; category in my own mind. Not even all the monsters from the 4e Epic Level Handbook qualify, in my mind.So although you are not going to be familiar with all the creatures listed, given that there are a number of homebrews, you can see what it takes to be on this list in my opinion- which is way more than merely 'being a bad ass monster'. It needs to be a monster that can face up to a Power, or that destroy a city or even country, or that is big enough to swallow an island, etc. &quot;I'm a super tough vampire&quot; ain't enough, in my judgement- &quot;I am a vampire who can slay everyone in a city overnight&quot; would do it. &quot;I'm a really tough monster&quot; won't get you on the list- &quot;I'm so tough that even an army is hopeless against me&quot; might. (I think the tarrasque is over-rated in CR terms; I wish they'd carried some of its 4e no-really-I'm-worth-this-high-of-a-CR traits over into 5e.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 8050520, member: 1210"] Hey U_K! I agree that there is a real dearth of epic monsters in 5e, but also that most monsters don't need to be epic. I've converted hundreds, maybe thousands, of monsters from older editions and my own homebrews, and here are the epic critters on my "monsters by CR" list, including those from the MM. As you can see, I've gone up to CR 42; but that includes any number of things that I put in the "god-killer" category in my own mind. Not even all the monsters from the 4e Epic Level Handbook qualify, in my mind. So although you are not going to be familiar with all the creatures listed, given that there are a number of homebrews, you can see what it takes to be on this list in my opinion- which is way more than merely 'being a bad ass monster'. It needs to be a monster that can face up to a Power, or that destroy a city or even country, or that is big enough to swallow an island, etc. "I'm a super tough vampire" ain't enough, in my judgement- "I am a vampire who can slay everyone in a city overnight" would do it. "I'm a really tough monster" won't get you on the list- "I'm so tough that even an army is hopeless against me" might. (I think the tarrasque is over-rated in CR terms; I wish they'd carried some of its 4e no-really-I'm-worth-this-high-of-a-CR traits over into 5e.) [/QUOTE]

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