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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Blue" data-source="post: 8502892" data-attributes="member: 20564">For 5e, I'm a fan of the 5e process.  Because that's part of the charm of 5e.If asked this in a more general way, my answer would pretty much be: All of the above.I enjoy a lot of different systems, and get different things from them. l Not only isn't there a preferred size, there cannot be a preferred size for everything.For example, I've been playing Champions for like four decades.  Well, truth be told I haven't been in a Champions game in over a decade, but I still occasionally create a character.  Because character creation is like a solo mini-game, and it's a great system to be able to work out such an amazing array of powers with flexibility nothing else matches - at the price of complexity.On the other hand I can do a pick-up game of Fate Accelerated starting with a group of people who have never played the system and at the end of 20 minutes we're already playing.  Because the concepts are so simple.Other factors come into play - in an RPG where lethal conflict is a regularly expected challenge resolution, I want a much lighter character creation system then one where it isn't, like in a superhero game.I want character creation crunchiness to match up with rules crunchiness, so prep and play both appeal to the same players.  I think 5e does a decent job of this - the lighter end of medium for rules and for character creation, which is why I like that level in the vote.  Trying to combine a much lighter or a much crunchier character creations system with the 5e rules system is a mismatch, it's a wrong pick.  That doesn't mean I wouldn't enjoy crunchier or lighter creation systems - just match them to the crunchiness of the rules system.Actually, I need to walk that back a little - the 5e creation system that matched rules has been growing more options scattered throughout books.  And while that is a surefire method for selling books, it's a horrible organization for character creation.  So 5e is moving beyond what I want because of scattered organization of character creation, not inherent complexity of it.</blockquote>

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