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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8505370" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Clan =/= class.And despite your rant you never answered my question:Unless you count this:Because by comparison the ideas you cite from other systems hardly make character creation "easier", and I still don't see how those things impact your character later on.No, it is based on your responses. Levels are a mechanic, so no they are not organic. But you want mechanics to make your growth feel mechanic. And we aren't discussing people in the real world, as you are well aware of considering our other conversations. Even with levels, PCs in D&D have abilities as well.Now you are being ridiculous to suggest such ill-uses of ASI/feats. There are plenty of feats and ASI options which would be completely different for the two builds without promoting non-sensical choices.Only if you solely are relying on your mechanical choices and benefits to define how your character grows.I agree for the most part, which is why taking metamagic away from solely sorcerers or invocations away from solely warlocks is bad design IMO.And returning to this, I've tried other game systems so yes, I have, and given your (and others) descriptions of such systems, no they don't sound good to me. I haven't tried squid, but I am pretty sure I wouldn't like it considering my dislike for seafood in general.LOL keep your smartphone. I don't own one. And the cell phone I have I keep only for travel in case of emergencies. Yes, I have my landline still and prefer it because I don't want to be attached to a smartphone as I see nearly everyone doing. I have seen family members ignoring their children because they are too busy on their smartphone...But I will save my rant on smartphones for a more appropriate place--they are one of the worst pieces of technology ever IMO. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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