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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9847597" data-attributes="member: 7043270">Honestly for me this is kinda hard to answer because I really have problems with placing games on this scale.Where would Pathfinder 1 be? Where pathfinder 2? Where D&D 4e? And where a really streamlined game like Beacon?I in general want depth not complexity, but I know that games need a certain amount of complexity for certai depth.For me 5e has not enough complexity (or rather not enough depth but I do think its because of the too simple base).But this also has a lot to do with how good or in draw steels case how bad rules are written.I dont think draw steels complexity is too much for me, but the rules are a pain to read. Similar the gloomhaven RPG. I dont think the game is much more complex than the boardgame, but the boardgame rules are soooo much easier to read because its just better written. (Better order, better examples, better more modern layout and visualization etc.)So about scaling: I find pathfinder 1 still ok, 5e too simple, beacon good, but a bit more complex I would find even better. D&D 4e is good but could be better if a bit simpler. Pathfinder 2 i find clearly too complex.So would that make it a 7.5 or so?Beacon at 7 (even though its better streamlined than 5e and rules clarity is way better), D&D 4e at 8, PF1 at 8.5 and PF 2 at 9+Or is my scale way off to what you had in mind? (I dont know the phoenix game).</blockquote>