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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Dragonblade" data-source="post: 1213447" data-attributes="member: 2804">Potions and spellcasters.If you want to beat the PCs with standard kobolds, have one or two leaders who also happen to be higher level sorcers. Maybe 9th or 10th. This is perfectly reasonable given the party's levels.Have the leader be a veritable potion making machine. Give every kobold a potion or two of haste, fly, invisibility (for sneak attacks), bull's strength, etc.You can supercharge your normal kobolds without giving them levels or even items. Remember, the PCs will get items if they kill the kobolds. But not if the kobolds have no items and already drank their potions! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />Then swarm them. Kobolds from everywhere, firing arrows, and slings. Standard kobolds will just be fodder for the Cleave feat so keep them out of melee.However, if you make the caves smaller then you can limit the PC's use of Cleave and give them penalties in melee. But I don't recommend this because then if the PC's die, they might complain you deliberately took away their feats, etc. I prefer to give the PCs plenty of rope and let them hang themselves.Overwhelm the group with sheer numbers if you use standard kobolds. If you really want to kill the party, give the kobolds levels.10 or more level 10 fighter or sorcerer kobolds armed to the teeth with appropriate magic, etc. will annihilate the party. Now you probably don't want to outright kill everyone so you'll have to be careful not to back the PCs into a corner and give them an opportunity to run away. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />If they don't run away and fight to the death, well then thats their choice. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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