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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Quickleaf" data-source="post: 7097598" data-attributes="member: 20323">I forgot to follow up, so thanks for your reminder!So I've extensively tried Campaign Cartographer 3 and a little Dundjinni back in 2006-2009, and I really didn't like those even though I'm used to working in a CAD-based environment. I just felt like the results I was getting for the money I was investing never achieved more than "fair to middling." Maybe CC3 has improved with new add-ons/changes, but I haven't been following after being disappointed.These days, when I'm working on a product or something big, typically an overland map that I want to be pretty or a critical battle map for publication I use Adobe Photoshop (or Gimp). Here's an example of an overland map I made for my adventure The Beast of Graenseskov using Photoshop:[SBLOCK=Photoshop example]<img src="http://i.imgur.com/SvpJN9q.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/SBLOCK]However, for quick-n-dirty maps I want for fleeting use at the table (or when I'm rushed), I've been favoring <a href="http://pyromancers.com/dungeon-painter-online/" target="_blank">Dungeon Painter</a>, which is a great web-based program that's in the process of becoming an app. Here's an example of raw output from Dungeon Painter before I touch it up:[SBLOCK=Dungeon Painter example]<img src="http://i.imgur.com/DzmXYGw.png" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/SBLOCK]EDIT: I've also found a lot of pleasure in using <a href="http://gamingpaper.com/" target="_blank">Gaming Paper</a> for my face-to-face games. It's rougher around the edges, but I've found that spending 15 minutes to pre-draw a map or two in advance works pretty well, and then I just need some black sheets of craft paper to cover up the areas of the map the players can't see yet. In fact, when I inquired about the possibility of isometric gaming paper, the awesome fellas at Gaming Paper chatted with me for a bit, created the product, then sent me out some complimentary rolls – we should be using those come July/Assembles once our gaming group reassembles from baby-making hiatus. Here's an example of a Gaming Paper map I made in advance of a Dragon Mountain session:[SBLOCK=Gaming Paper example]<img src="http://i.imgur.com/IgRWNti.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />[/SBLOCK]There are also several Kickstarters happening right now for cartography software; the one I'm following is <a href="https://hobbyte.net/" target="_blank">Dungeon Builder</a>, an isometric mapper with hand-drawn tiles. Very cool project.And finally, there are many other mapping resources I haven't listed. Some of these are linked from this hub: <a href="https://wiki.roll20.net/Useful_links_for_mapping" target="_blank">https://wiki.roll20.net/Useful_links_for_mapping</a> Otherwise, I highly recommend joining the <a href="https://www.cartographersguild.com/content.php" target="_blank">Cartographers Guild</a>!EDIT: As a closing thought   [MENTION=6802927]Inoeex[/MENTION], I think the question you want to ask as a GM is "when is it crucial to have a map, and what sort of map?" For example, my more recent designs as a GM & adventure writer have 3D aspects – but communicating that to players not used to thinking in 3 dimensions (basically most people without a construction, engineering, architecture, or Lego Master Builder background <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) can be challenging. So having isometric maps I'm finding more important for my style of GMing/designing than a 1"=5 feet battle map.</blockquote>

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