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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Musing Mage" data-source="post: 8408142" data-attributes="member: 7025552">I guess crunch and casual mixed, if I have to vote from those selections... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f914.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":unsure:" title="Unsure    :unsure:"  data-smilie="24"data-shortname=":unsure:" />I like detail and 'crunch' in the general aspects of the game - for instance in my 1e game I use all sort of fun stuff like disease checks, morale rolls for monsters with all the various modifiers, Sage rules, Training and rating, wilderness exploration and random terrain - a very nuanced and chaotic combat system... but what I don't love are excessive powers and abilities for PC classes, and builds. 1e doesn't have a lot of that so it's to my tastes. Only some classes (Hello Monk) have new abilities as they advance... the main classes generally get their abilities from the get go, and simply get better at them as time goes on, with the occasional new power/trick at high levels.I like how 5e made the core game simple to learn, but they went way overboard on PC classes and options. Min-Maxing on crack. New abilities just pile up as characters advance and can get overwhelming. I can't count the times I've forgotten half my abilities mid-game, only to look at my sheet and think 'damn, could have used that!' and I have familiarity with the game... I have seen countless new players get lost real fast as the sheer volume of abilities that get added.So yeah, crunch in some areas, more casual in others.</blockquote>

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