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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9440290" data-attributes="member: 725"><p>This is not an issue inherent to digital media. As others have said, a PDF is also perfectly usable regardless of platform or system. In this case specifically it's the DDB platform that's giving you issues, that's because you don't control your purchase or the platform you run it on.</p><p></p><p>Other digital solutions you can control yourself. With Foundry VTT for example I can run whatever version I want to run. If I want to stay on D&D 2014, I can keep it running on the last 2014 rules set and FVTT on whatever version that latest rules set runs on. You can keep running what you have now forever.</p><p></p><p>The issues start when you want new stuff, supported stuff, etc. You can play Pathfinder 2e on the latest version of FVTT, but Pathfinder 1e is still stuck on the version before this one of FVTT. That's not because FVTT isn't supporting PF1e anymore, but because all the rules sets are implemented by fans and older editions just means less fans. Less fans means less people working on it. D&D 4E is for example supported by the fans for the latest FVTT version, but it was about a month slower then it's 5e younger (and more popular sibling). The 3.5e version hasn't been updated in almost 8 months for FVTT...</p><p></p><p>What we see on FVTT is that most people use the latest and 'greatest' rules set of their chosen system and that's also what most people will develop for. So it's a matter of popularity. When we had 3.0 to 3.5 20+ years ago, that was a drastic improvement and even though there was some grumbling from some corners, I think there was pretty much total adoption with 3.5e. With 5.0 to 5.5, people that are normally very open to such changes now weren't really all the positive, they didn't see much upgrades to justify an upgrade at all. I would even go so far as to say that it's a downgrade in some cases <em>looks at the stealth thread on ENworld</em>... So in this case it might be possible that way more people stay on the 2014 edition compared to 20+ years ago. It will also not initially help that the core books are spread out over a six month period and I don't expect a new SRD before the MM is released.</p><p></p><p>That said, I already preordered the 2024 core books for FVTT, but am not certain IF or when we'll migrate. It depends on a whole lot of factors, one of which is how the group as a whole feels about it and how we'll work around the downgrades. The implementations of FVTT D&D products is often stellar, so that might pull us in... I certainly won't buy the physical 2024 core books anytime soon.</p><p></p><p>There are other digital solutions out there that give you more control, DDB just isn't one of them. The best thing about DDB I can say about it is that others have figured out how to import DDB stuff you 'own' into other VTTs.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 9440290, member: 725"] This is not an issue inherent to digital media. As others have said, a PDF is also perfectly usable regardless of platform or system. In this case specifically it's the DDB platform that's giving you issues, that's because you don't control your purchase or the platform you run it on. Other digital solutions you can control yourself. With Foundry VTT for example I can run whatever version I want to run. If I want to stay on D&D 2014, I can keep it running on the last 2014 rules set and FVTT on whatever version that latest rules set runs on. You can keep running what you have now forever. The issues start when you want new stuff, supported stuff, etc. You can play Pathfinder 2e on the latest version of FVTT, but Pathfinder 1e is still stuck on the version before this one of FVTT. That's not because FVTT isn't supporting PF1e anymore, but because all the rules sets are implemented by fans and older editions just means less fans. Less fans means less people working on it. D&D 4E is for example supported by the fans for the latest FVTT version, but it was about a month slower then it's 5e younger (and more popular sibling). The 3.5e version hasn't been updated in almost 8 months for FVTT... What we see on FVTT is that most people use the latest and 'greatest' rules set of their chosen system and that's also what most people will develop for. So it's a matter of popularity. When we had 3.0 to 3.5 20+ years ago, that was a drastic improvement and even though there was some grumbling from some corners, I think there was pretty much total adoption with 3.5e. With 5.0 to 5.5, people that are normally very open to such changes now weren't really all the positive, they didn't see much upgrades to justify an upgrade at all. I would even go so far as to say that it's a downgrade in some cases [I]looks at the stealth thread on ENworld[/I]... So in this case it might be possible that way more people stay on the 2014 edition compared to 20+ years ago. It will also not initially help that the core books are spread out over a six month period and I don't expect a new SRD before the MM is released. That said, I already preordered the 2024 core books for FVTT, but am not certain IF or when we'll migrate. It depends on a whole lot of factors, one of which is how the group as a whole feels about it and how we'll work around the downgrades. The implementations of FVTT D&D products is often stellar, so that might pull us in... I certainly won't buy the physical 2024 core books anytime soon. There are other digital solutions out there that give you more control, DDB just isn't one of them. The best thing about DDB I can say about it is that others have figured out how to import DDB stuff you 'own' into other VTTs. [/QUOTE]
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