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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9450281" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I wasn't going for insulting. I was going for blunt. And what that gains me is cutting through the fluff to the heart of the matter. I could be "kind" but I don't see how I'm being cruel. I'm just stating things as I see them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I never considered my words to imply that the game was not professionally made. Perhaps we need a different term then. But, let me ask you this, what is the difference between professionally made paintings and amateur paintings? Both are still paintings, are they not? Technical skill could be seen as a difference... but then again, I've seen some people paint for hobbies who are just as good if not better than some professional artists. So what is the difference?</p><p></p><p>By homebrew, I mean you went through the same process that I did. You took a class. You kept what you liked. You got rid of or changed what you did not like. Your fighter still goes to level 20, it still uses proficiency, it still has the same armor and weapon proficiencies, two proficient saving throws, two proficient skills which look like an identical list of skills. You have some new items, but also some items I'm familiar with. You have fighting styles, some of which are identical and some which are new. Your fighter gets extra attack at levels 5 and 11, indomitable at 9, though you added to it... </p><p></p><p>Yours is different than mine, and both of ours is different than Laser Llamas, and all three are different from Kibblestasty's fighter... but all are still predicated on the DnD 5e fighter, just altered with what we think would make it better. We all did the same, fundamental action. We took the existing rules and altered them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So your product is still a modification for Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition is still the core of your product, which is why you assure people that it is the same game. You can't have 5e separate from that, because 5e stands for "Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition" and it doesn't make sense to claim you have 5e DnD without 5e DnD in it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9450281, member: 6801228"] I wasn't going for insulting. I was going for blunt. And what that gains me is cutting through the fluff to the heart of the matter. I could be "kind" but I don't see how I'm being cruel. I'm just stating things as I see them. I never considered my words to imply that the game was not professionally made. Perhaps we need a different term then. But, let me ask you this, what is the difference between professionally made paintings and amateur paintings? Both are still paintings, are they not? Technical skill could be seen as a difference... but then again, I've seen some people paint for hobbies who are just as good if not better than some professional artists. So what is the difference? By homebrew, I mean you went through the same process that I did. You took a class. You kept what you liked. You got rid of or changed what you did not like. Your fighter still goes to level 20, it still uses proficiency, it still has the same armor and weapon proficiencies, two proficient saving throws, two proficient skills which look like an identical list of skills. You have some new items, but also some items I'm familiar with. You have fighting styles, some of which are identical and some which are new. Your fighter gets extra attack at levels 5 and 11, indomitable at 9, though you added to it... Yours is different than mine, and both of ours is different than Laser Llamas, and all three are different from Kibblestasty's fighter... but all are still predicated on the DnD 5e fighter, just altered with what we think would make it better. We all did the same, fundamental action. We took the existing rules and altered them. So your product is still a modification for Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition. Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition is still the core of your product, which is why you assure people that it is the same game. You can't have 5e separate from that, because 5e stands for "Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition" and it doesn't make sense to claim you have 5e DnD without 5e DnD in it. [/QUOTE]
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