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<blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 9450494" data-attributes="member: 7006">Yes and no (in my opinion).&nbsp; People would say it was harder because so many players used the Character Builder and Monster Builder to create things that not having them would appear to make things more difficult.&nbsp; But in truth, all they did was giving players and DMs more options to have at their fingertips.&nbsp; But if people just use the books as-is... playing 4E is no different than playing any other game using hardcover books online.Granted, lots of players nowadays want their books available online through whatever VTT they use to make it easier, and in that regard the number of 5E players who would play online would indeed be larger than the number of 4E players current who wish to keep playing online (which I believe is your point) because there are more 5E books available to bought through the various VTTs than 4E books are.&nbsp; I agree with that point.However, while I agree there would be more remaining 5E players online after 6E gets released than there are right now of 4E players with 5E having been released... that total number of 5E players who don't move to 6E I believe would still be very small in the grand scheme of total D&amp;D playerbase.&nbsp; Yes, a place like EN World where it is self-selecting to a more hardcore RPG gamer base would have a good amount of folks here stating they are playing/remaining with 5E after 6E's release, but that would be but a small segment of most of the D&amp;D Universe.&nbsp; And in my opinion would return all the various 5E products to the levels of players right now playing World of Darkness or GURPS or Mutants &amp; Masterminds.&nbsp; Small and determined playerbases for sure... I make no disparaging remarks about the players who continue with those games... but the games themselves are small pockets in the community overall (because WotC is so large).&nbsp; And a system like Tales of the Valiant will join those games once they are no longer part of the WotC umbrella of working off the primary game in the gaming space.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="DEFCON 1, post: 9450494, member: 7006"] Yes and no (in my opinion). People would say it was harder because so many players used the Character Builder and Monster Builder to create things that not having them would appear to make things more difficult. But in truth, all they did was giving players and DMs more options to have at their fingertips. But if people just use the books as-is... playing 4E is no different than playing any other game using hardcover books online. Granted, lots of players nowadays want their books available online through whatever VTT they use to make it easier, and in that regard the number of 5E players who would play online would indeed be larger than the number of 4E players current who wish to keep playing online (which I believe is your point) because there are more 5E books available to bought through the various VTTs than 4E books are. I agree with that point. However, while I agree there would be more remaining 5E players online after 6E gets released than there are right now of 4E players with 5E having been released... that total number of 5E players who don't move to 6E I believe would still be very small in the grand scheme of total D&D playerbase. Yes, a place like EN World where it is self-selecting to a more hardcore RPG gamer base would have a good amount of folks here stating they are playing/remaining with 5E after 6E's release, but that would be but a small segment of most of the D&D Universe. And in my opinion would return all the various 5E products to the levels of players right now playing World of Darkness or GURPS or Mutants & Masterminds. Small and determined playerbases for sure... I make no disparaging remarks about the players who continue with those games... but the games themselves are small pockets in the community overall (because WotC is so large). And a system like Tales of the Valiant will join those games once they are no longer part of the WotC umbrella of working off the primary game in the gaming space. [/QUOTE]

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