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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9454650" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>I would suppose it is control and power, since that is what I keep getting accused of cedeing to WoTC for saying that the 5e SRD is directly refencing Dungeons and Dragons, and products built off of it are built off of Dungeons and Dragons.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Depends on what you mean by that.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>What do you mean by Publish? Because, I have created many posts in written form laying out changes. I haven't had a chance to utilize the Combat Arts system I came up with here: <a href="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chaosmancer-martial-brews.698337/" target="_blank">D&D (2024) - Chaosmancer Martial Brews</a> but... is it not published in a manner of speaking? It is out there, in text form, for people to utilize and riff off of. </p><p></p><p>If I wrote changes to the system on a blog, or as part of rule changes for a story on a fanfiction website (which I have) is that considered "published"? What if my systems for that story (as an example, defeating an enemy gives you points of proficiency equal to their CR to add to your skills, attacks, ect. Being defeated gives you half with a minimum) was adopted by a second person making a different story, and credited to me? Are these things not "published" just because I am not selling them on a major website?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I go off on these tangents for a purpose. One of the major elements of WoTC books that are not included in the SRD are the lore and story elements. So, every time someone has claimed that "only a subset" of the DnD 5e rules are present in the SRD... in large part the part that was excluded doesn't apply to your argument. Because they are not part of the ruleset. But, if we can change those and it still be DnD... why can't we change other parts and it still be DnD?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So if you wanted to state that Level Up and Tales of the Valiant are 5e compatible, but not 5e itself, then I would agree. However, the claim which started this debate was that 5e is separate from Level Up, Tales of the Valiant, AND Dungeons and Dragons. Which caused the initial disagreement.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So, depending on how you define publishing, the SRD may or may not matter. But for the goal of making rules to use with the DnD system, or crafting a system of rules that are not quite DnD but something similar... the SRD was never necessary. IT all depends on your goals and perspectives how this all shakes out.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"<em>We are saying <strong>[Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition]</strong> now encompasses more than just <strong>[Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition]</strong>, not that it does not include <strong>[Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition].</strong></em>"</p><p></p><p>This was either always true (DnD the game encompassing more than just what WotC published for it) or is nonsensical.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9454650, member: 6801228"] I would suppose it is control and power, since that is what I keep getting accused of cedeing to WoTC for saying that the 5e SRD is directly refencing Dungeons and Dragons, and products built off of it are built off of Dungeons and Dragons. Depends on what you mean by that. What do you mean by Publish? Because, I have created many posts in written form laying out changes. I haven't had a chance to utilize the Combat Arts system I came up with here: [URL="https://www.enworld.org/threads/chaosmancer-martial-brews.698337/"]D&D (2024) - Chaosmancer Martial Brews[/URL] but... is it not published in a manner of speaking? It is out there, in text form, for people to utilize and riff off of. If I wrote changes to the system on a blog, or as part of rule changes for a story on a fanfiction website (which I have) is that considered "published"? What if my systems for that story (as an example, defeating an enemy gives you points of proficiency equal to their CR to add to your skills, attacks, ect. Being defeated gives you half with a minimum) was adopted by a second person making a different story, and credited to me? Are these things not "published" just because I am not selling them on a major website? I go off on these tangents for a purpose. One of the major elements of WoTC books that are not included in the SRD are the lore and story elements. So, every time someone has claimed that "only a subset" of the DnD 5e rules are present in the SRD... in large part the part that was excluded doesn't apply to your argument. Because they are not part of the ruleset. But, if we can change those and it still be DnD... why can't we change other parts and it still be DnD? So if you wanted to state that Level Up and Tales of the Valiant are 5e compatible, but not 5e itself, then I would agree. However, the claim which started this debate was that 5e is separate from Level Up, Tales of the Valiant, AND Dungeons and Dragons. Which caused the initial disagreement. So, depending on how you define publishing, the SRD may or may not matter. But for the goal of making rules to use with the DnD system, or crafting a system of rules that are not quite DnD but something similar... the SRD was never necessary. IT all depends on your goals and perspectives how this all shakes out. "[I]We are saying [B][Dungeons and Dragons 5th Edition][/B] now encompasses more than just [B][Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition][/B], not that it does not include [B][Dungeons and Dragons 5th edition].[/B][/I]" This was either always true (DnD the game encompassing more than just what WotC published for it) or is nonsensical. [/QUOTE]
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