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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Drakmar" data-source="post: 182192" data-attributes="member: 1318">the worst roll players that I haveever met were and still are playing White Wolf.. I have never seen anyboy have their way with a set of rules that this bunch can.As a player I like to think that I am a combination of both.. basically somedays I am in a gah...lets just beat the bejesus out of them and on others...well..lets see if we can talk about this.I have found as a player that I manipulating the roll players into combat situations of my choosing tends to work beautifully.  Ie...get them to have at least one or two driving traits that even they take notice of and play to them.As a DM....well...um.. I think that I get a balance between both role playing and combat... I basically assess the playing style of all of my players and try to find a balance.. fortunately the person in my group who is a "Serious Roleplayer" is also a DM who understands that yes there are more than one kind of player in the world and that you have figure out what each PLAYER enjoys..cause that is why we are all there...to enjoy ourselves.  At least the people I play with and I are there for enjoyment.  dunno bout you.</blockquote>