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Message: <blockquote data-quote="eriktheguy" data-source="post: 5494032" data-attributes="member: 83662">I see the issue here. The player doesn't care about her succubus character, she is making excuses to not play 4e. You already made it clear that she can do these things in 4e, but she is trying to come up with reasons 4e wouldn't allow her to even after the DM has given her the okay. This isn't about specific problems with 4e, it's about being stubborn.Also, alignment does nothing in 4e. Her alignment can be good, neutral good, chaotic good, or 'jello pudding'.Succubi being devils or demons is more of an issue of campaign setting than edition. She would be just as right to protest that here succubus character from Baator won't work in 3.x because the core book doesn't contain an entry about Baator. I'm running a planescape setting right now in which I treat succubi as demons instead of devils. So far this hasn't ruined anyone's life.Maybe your characters will be receptive if you tell them that the setting/cosmology will be based on previous editions. My current campaign uses 2e planescape splat-books, and mixes in a bit of 4e cosmology by giving each material plane (and some outer planes) their own feywild and shadowdark.If they are concerned with combat taking too long, you might want to try 50%-75% monster HP like many DMs use. If you are using monster manual 1 or 2, definitely reduce monster HP by at least 25%.If they dislike skill challenges you can remove skill challenges and replace them entirely with role-playing and occasional skill checks. Some DMs do this. Those are two of the most common problems for people that prefer 3.x/pathfinder. Just remind them that 3.5/pathfinder veterans have been playing 4e for years now. Wizards has corrected a lot of problems with the initial system, and there are tons of house-rules out there to give the game a more 3.5 feel.Finally, you can entice any fighters in your group by pointing out that their character will still be useful post level 10 ;p. Also, bard is now a viable class.</blockquote>

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