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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5496246" data-attributes="member: 2011">I wasn't trying to illustrate an exact count. I was trying to illustrate a point.But in answer to your question, a DM ruled scenario of this might be:1) Minor Action to put dagger between teeth (who says that this is a free action? A PC shouldn't get a free action to hold an extra weapon when putting it away in his belt already has a rule and is a minor action, use the closest normal rule that fits).2) Move Action to jump to the chandelier. It's ten feet away without a running start, so that's DC 20 Athletics check and 2 squares of movement. 3) Move Action: Continue Move Action to swing on the chandelier. The DM rules a normal DC 15 Acrobatics stunt and 6 squares of movement to get to the other side of the room next to the BBEG. The PC has used a double move at this point to go 40 feet. Free Action: Drop 20 feet next to BBEG. Acrobatics check to take no damage and not be prone.4) Minor Action to retrieve Dagger again.5) Standard Action to attack foe.In this adjudication, it was 2 moves, 2 minors, 1 standard, 1 free, an Athletics check, and 2 Acrobatics checks.Or maybe the distance was 80 feet and the PC was trying to use his Acrobatics to move more than his normal move by swinging on the chandelier. Whatever. The point is not how to adjudicate this specific example, the point is to attempt to adjudicate special actions as close to the rules for normal actions as possible.Since they are special actions that border on the edges of the normal rules, it is likely that many DMs will rule them slightly differently anyway.As a different example. I have a player in my game who gets annoyed every time she runs a PC that has a shield and the PCs are climbing up or down (a rope or whatever) into an encounter. Equiping a shield is a standard action. She wants to be able to climb to the encounter with weapon and shield out and ready right away. As long as there is time before the encounter to do so, fine. But, I don't agree with the "just say Yes" crowd that she can climb with no penalty with a sword and shield in hand.</blockquote>

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