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<blockquote data-quote="Aus_Snow" data-source="post: 5498006" data-attributes="member: 29112">Interesting angle to take.Firstly, I did not say (nor mean to imply) that it's &quot;that&quot; lost [etc.], but rather, simply commenting on what I have observed, right in front of me. As in, &quot;for some&quot;, and &quot;it would appear&quot;. You know, the stuff I actually wrote, not the agenda you seem to be assuming I am pushing, defending, or what have you. See above as well, for more of that.Oh, and secondly, &quot;Say yes or roll the dice&quot; is [or at least was, leading up to 4e's launch] quite the trendy catchphrase. Mike Mearls is on record expressing admiration for the &quot;movement&quot; pushing that PoV, such expression being, naturally enough, politically savvy in its own way. If as divisive as various other moves obviously were - or have later proven to be - along the way...Not surprisingly I suppose, quite apart from the fact that &quot;d20 is no longer so threatening&quot; (yes, well), 4e has been received rather warmly, by and large, by the story games / Forge / indie folks. No, not by every single one of them. I do mean generally speaking here. Being perceived to be no longer stomping toes all over the damn place must yield some kind of benefit, somewhere. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin&nbsp; &nbsp; :D"&nbsp; data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />It would have been quite the &quot;coup&quot; if the OSR could have been likewise wooed. It was attempted, right enough. Just... not sure that went all that swimmingly. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue&nbsp; &nbsp; :p"&nbsp; data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Well, it's witty. I had to chuckle, even. But otherwise, it's completely irrelevant. I can only assume you didn't already know that, so it must be a case of crossed wires. As evidenced by the first quoted paragraph, I guess. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm&nbsp; &nbsp; :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aus_Snow, post: 5498006, member: 29112"] Interesting angle to take. Firstly, I did not say (nor mean to imply) that it's "that" lost [etc.], but rather, simply commenting on what I have observed, right in front of me. As in, "for some", and "it would appear". You know, the stuff I actually wrote, not the agenda you [B]seem[/B] to be assuming I am pushing, defending, or what have you. See above as well, for more of that. Oh, and secondly, "Say yes or roll the dice" is [or at least [I]was[/I], leading up to 4e's launch] [I]quite[/I] the trendy catchphrase. Mike Mearls is on record expressing admiration for the "movement" pushing that PoV, such expression being, naturally enough, politically savvy in its own way. If as divisive as various other moves obviously were - or have later proven to be - along the way... Not surprisingly I suppose, quite apart from the fact that "d20 is no longer so threatening" (yes, well), 4e has been received rather warmly, by and large, by the story games / Forge / indie folks. No, not by every single one of them. I do mean [I]generally speaking[/I] here. Being perceived to be no longer stomping toes all over the damn place must yield some kind of benefit, somewhere. :D It would have been quite the "coup" if the OSR could have been likewise wooed. It was attempted, right enough. Just... not sure that went all that swimmingly. :p Well, it's witty. I had to chuckle, even. But otherwise, it's completely irrelevant. I can only assume you [I]didn't[/I] already know that, so it must be a case of crossed wires. As evidenced by the first quoted paragraph, I guess. :erm: [/QUOTE]

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