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<blockquote data-quote="Barastrondo" data-source="post: 5501033" data-attributes="member: 3820">This is one area of the game that I personally dislike, specifically the way that hard checks accelerate so astronomically. I have a strong antipathy to being told that if a PC wants to maintain his skills he's expected to pick up magic items that make him better at what he does, especially since the game has done so much to make it possible to run games where magic item pluses in combat can be stripped out and internalized. I don't quite get the thinking that makes it okay to be an awesome fighter because you're awesome rather than your gear, but to set skill DCs with the expectation that the awesome guys derive a chunk of awesome from gear. I realize that there are players out there who do enjoy devoting feats and paragon paths to making a specific skill as high as it can go, and who load up skill-boosting items with pride rather than disappointment. But if you're in a group where you're not at least 50% players of that inclination, it feels kind of bizarre to have the DCs balanced around these guys. I personally retain a prior build of the DC table for just that reason.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Barastrondo, post: 5501033, member: 3820"] This is one area of the game that I personally dislike, specifically the way that hard checks accelerate so astronomically. I have a strong antipathy to being told that if a PC wants to maintain his skills he's expected to pick up magic items that make him better at what he does, [I]especially[/I] since the game has done so much to make it possible to run games where magic item pluses in combat can be stripped out and internalized. I don't quite get the thinking that makes it okay to be an awesome fighter because [I]you're[/I] awesome rather than your gear, but to set skill DCs with the expectation that the awesome guys derive a chunk of awesome from gear. I realize that there are players out there who do enjoy devoting feats and paragon paths to making a specific skill as high as it can go, and who load up skill-boosting items with pride rather than disappointment. But if you're in a group where you're not at least 50% players of that inclination, it feels kind of bizarre to have the DCs balanced around these guys. I personally retain a prior build of the DC table for just that reason. [/QUOTE]

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