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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5505380" data-attributes="member: 2011">Fricking WotC.The new numbers came out in an article September 8, 2010.The numbers I quoted were STILL in the updateCompiled.pdf that came out October 5, 2010 and in the Dungeon Master's pdf.This just ticks me off that they fix their rules in September, but cannot migrate those new rules into the October update document 4 weeks later.That's just so lame.Thanks for pointing this out.PS. I like these numbers a LOT more than either of the previous two sets. They take into account Easy working the same for untrained PCs from 1 to 30. They take into account Hard working tougher for trained PCs with all stat boosts because there are other synergies such as feats, skill powers, and items. I'm still not too keen on Medium because Trained PCs will almost auto-win Medium DCs (100% with a background +2), but it's a bit better than before.It's about time they did it mostly right. Medium is still really lame (nearly 50% for many untrained, nearly 100% for many trained), but not as lame as before.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5505380, member: 2011"] Fricking WotC. The new numbers came out in an article September 8, 2010. The numbers I quoted were STILL in the updateCompiled.pdf that came out October 5, 2010 and in the Dungeon Master's pdf. This just ticks me off that they fix their rules in September, but cannot migrate those new rules into the October update document 4 weeks later. That's just so lame. Thanks for pointing this out. PS. I like these numbers a LOT more than either of the previous two sets. They take into account Easy working the same for untrained PCs from 1 to 30. They take into account Hard working tougher for trained PCs with all stat boosts because there are other synergies such as feats, skill powers, and items. I'm still not too keen on Medium because Trained PCs will almost auto-win Medium DCs (100% with a background +2), but it's a bit better than before. It's about time they did it mostly right. Medium is still really lame (nearly 50% for many untrained, nearly 100% for many trained), but not as lame as before. [/QUOTE]

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