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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5524775" data-attributes="member: 82106">Right, the interesting meme to me is the 'mechanics trump anything else' one. Certainly players aren't free to invent different mechanics for their powers arbitrarily like they can fluff. OTOH nothing says that powers MUST always work 100% of the time in exactly the same way regardless of the situation. That one seems to be considered canon, yet nothing actually even suggests it is an intended property of the game. Inarguably the rules several times state outright that the DM should apply modifiers for situations not explicitly covered by the rules, this presumably can only refer to 'fluff' (circumstances with no defined mechanical impact are not free of mechanical significance). Admittedly the rules don't either say &quot;change the way powers work to reflect circumstance&quot;, but if this is assumed to be the way it works in all previous editions what would lead one to believe it isn't so in 4e? Balance and players being able to count on their powers is one thing, but I don't see where either of those necessarily requires every use of Come and Get It to work exactly the same way regardless of the player not being able to explain any plausible narrative to attach to that. Again, you run the risk of disfavoring martial characters, but I don't think that's a serious issue for any DM on this thread...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5524775, member: 82106"] Right, the interesting meme to me is the 'mechanics trump anything else' one. Certainly players aren't free to invent different mechanics for their powers arbitrarily like they can fluff. OTOH nothing says that powers MUST always work 100% of the time in exactly the same way regardless of the situation. That one seems to be considered canon, yet nothing actually even suggests it is an intended property of the game. Inarguably the rules several times state outright that the DM should apply modifiers for situations not explicitly covered by the rules, this presumably can only refer to 'fluff' (circumstances with no defined mechanical impact are not free of mechanical significance). Admittedly the rules don't either say "change the way powers work to reflect circumstance", but if this is assumed to be the way it works in all previous editions what would lead one to believe it isn't so in 4e? Balance and players being able to count on their powers is one thing, but I don't see where either of those necessarily requires every use of Come and Get It to work exactly the same way regardless of the player not being able to explain any plausible narrative to attach to that. Again, you run the risk of disfavoring martial characters, but I don't think that's a serious issue for any DM on this thread... [/QUOTE]

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