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<blockquote data-quote="GreyLord" data-source="post: 7563892" data-attributes="member: 4348"><p>Depends. 3.5 had 5' steps...and when I got the basic box it included all the miniatures (and more) to play. Some people even just got the box FOR the miniatures. </p><p></p><p>It was the boardgame aspect that actually finally won me over to play 3.5 as a game with those boxes. </p><p></p><p>4e, we played with the grid, but the absence of the quality and amount of miniatures that had been available with 3.5 release actually discouraged us to play.</p><p></p><p>Which is easier to play with miniatures...a TON of cheap miniatures for sale at retail (3.5)...or a greatly diminishing amount of miniatures for sale that you actually might have to use 3.5 miniatures or use those from other games to play?</p><p></p><p>There's a REASON we didn't always use miniatures and used theater of the mind with 4e in many campaigns. I am not unusual in that I played 4e with the theater of the mind.</p><p></p><p>4e did not require miniatures anymore than 3.5 did....</p><p></p><p>Though Warhammer Fantasy and 40K probably take the cake on requiring miniatures...but that's because they are miniature wargames.</p><p></p><p>During that same period I WAS playing another non-Warhammer game called Flames of War. Great game if you are into minis...expensive though (as many miniature wargames are).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreyLord, post: 7563892, member: 4348"] Depends. 3.5 had 5' steps...and when I got the basic box it included all the miniatures (and more) to play. Some people even just got the box FOR the miniatures. It was the boardgame aspect that actually finally won me over to play 3.5 as a game with those boxes. 4e, we played with the grid, but the absence of the quality and amount of miniatures that had been available with 3.5 release actually discouraged us to play. Which is easier to play with miniatures...a TON of cheap miniatures for sale at retail (3.5)...or a greatly diminishing amount of miniatures for sale that you actually might have to use 3.5 miniatures or use those from other games to play? There's a REASON we didn't always use miniatures and used theater of the mind with 4e in many campaigns. I am not unusual in that I played 4e with the theater of the mind. 4e did not require miniatures anymore than 3.5 did.... Though Warhammer Fantasy and 40K probably take the cake on requiring miniatures...but that's because they are miniature wargames. During that same period I WAS playing another non-Warhammer game called Flames of War. Great game if you are into minis...expensive though (as many miniature wargames are). [/QUOTE]
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