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<blockquote data-quote="jayoungr" data-source="post: 9468539" data-attributes="member: 6702445">The module tells the DM to &quot;Roll dice behind the screen and frown.”&nbsp; That is meant to imply to the players that the monster succeeded on some kind of secret saving throw, suggesting that it might fail on a future attempt (even with the same roll from the players).Still, if the module writers really wanted this to work, the smart thing would have been to provide the DM with some text to explain what's going on. Or, even better, to build the explanation into the story.I don't disagree that those are more elegant and effective ways of handling the situation. Nor am I saying you're wrong to dislike this module's approach. I was really just trying to get to the bottom of what exactly bothered you about it.Am I right in guessing you're the sort of player who also dislikes <a href="https://tatabletop.com/2020/06/22/quantum-ogre-theory/" target="_blank">Quantum Ogres</a>? Because this strikes me as a similar situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="jayoungr, post: 9468539, member: 6702445"] The module tells the DM to "Roll dice behind the screen and frown.” That is meant to imply to the players that the monster succeeded on some kind of secret saving throw, suggesting that it might fail on a future attempt (even with the same roll from the players). Still, if the module writers really wanted this to work, the smart thing would have been to provide the DM with some text to explain what's going on. Or, even better, to build the explanation into the story. I don't disagree that those are more elegant and effective ways of handling the situation. Nor am I saying you're wrong to dislike this module's approach. I was really just trying to get to the bottom of what exactly bothered you about it. Am I right in guessing you're the sort of player who also dislikes [URL='https://tatabletop.com/2020/06/22/quantum-ogre-theory/']Quantum Ogres[/URL]? Because this strikes me as a similar situation. [/QUOTE]

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