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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9471289" data-attributes="member: 42582">I think that scene-framed play is very possible using D&amp;D. I've done it in AD&amp;D (in the mid-to-late 80s) and in 4e D&amp;D (in a 1st to 30th campaign from 2009 to 2016).D&amp;D has the big advantage, in this respect, of shipping with a Monster Manual (so stats are there ready-to-hand) and having many modules from which maps, traps, basic situations/set-ups can be taken.I think this issue of &quot;good players&quot; or &quot;good GMing&quot; can be exaggerated.I mean, is it that hard to make up fun fantasy-themed shenanigans with one's friends? When I was doing this in AD&amp;D I was a teenager, playing with my brother and our friend from down the road in our little country town. The fiction we created wasn't great literature or anything, but it was fun for me as GM to come up with ideas about Chemosh cultists in Critwall (building on the evil priest and cult stuff in KotB) and for them to get up to hijinks with their multi-classed thieves.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9471289, member: 42582"] I think that scene-framed play is very possible using D&D. I've done it in AD&D (in the mid-to-late 80s) and in 4e D&D (in a 1st to 30th campaign from 2009 to 2016). D&D has the big advantage, in this respect, of shipping with a Monster Manual (so stats are there ready-to-hand) and having many modules from which maps, traps, basic situations/set-ups can be taken. I think this issue of "good players" or "good GMing" can be exaggerated. I mean, is it that hard to make up fun fantasy-themed shenanigans with one's friends? When I was doing this in AD&D I was a teenager, playing with my brother and our friend from down the road in our little country town. The fiction we created wasn't great literature or anything, but it was fun for me as GM to come up with ideas about Chemosh cultists in Critwall (building on the evil priest and cult stuff in KotB) and for them to get up to hijinks with their multi-classed thieves. [/QUOTE]

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