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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9474047" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Precisely.Just because &quot;this isn't what would instantly give me personal gratification based on what I, personally, would do in this situation&quot; is true, does not in any way mean that the character can somehow make choices despite the player saying that that isn't what happens.And, as noted, when roleplaying you have the choice of all sorts of things. You can choose whether a character responds by breaking down or steeling themselves (even if they've always done one, you can decide that this is the moment they change.) You can choose whether a character cracks a joke or keeps it to themselves. Long term, you choose whether a character actually does care about something or not, even if their prior behavior has been entirely the opposite.Characters can have goals that a player would not personally choose for their IRL self. But characters cannot have goals that the player is actively unwilling to roleplay. Characters can make choices that are naughty word--because the player thinks that that choice would be interesting or appropriate or whatever. A choice that the player genuinely couldn't accept won't happen, because even if it's a choice the character could reasonably make if they were an actual thinking person, it's not a choice the player will permit.Like...at any time any character COULD choose to just shank their allies in their sleep. I'd even say there's a fair few PCs out there for whom that wouldn't be all that unusual of a choice for them. But the vast, vast, vast majority of players won't permit that choice, because it wouldn't be entertaining. It would be annoying and frustrating and sour the experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9474047, member: 6790260"] Precisely. Just because "this isn't what would instantly give me personal gratification based on what I, personally, would do in this situation" is true, does not in any way mean that the character can somehow make choices despite the player saying that that isn't what happens. And, as noted, when roleplaying you have the [I]choice[/I] of all sorts of things. You can choose whether a character responds by breaking down or steeling themselves (even if they've always done one, you can decide that this is the moment they change.) You can choose whether a character cracks a joke or keeps it to themselves. Long term, you choose whether a character actually does care about something or not, even if their prior behavior has been entirely the opposite. Characters can have goals that a player would not personally choose for their IRL self. But characters cannot have goals that the player is actively unwilling to roleplay. Characters can make choices that are naughty word--because the [I]player[/I] thinks that that choice would be interesting or appropriate or whatever. A choice that the player genuinely couldn't accept [I]won't happen[/I], because even if it's a choice the character could reasonably make if they were an actual thinking person, it's not a choice the player will permit. Like...at any time any character COULD choose to just shank their allies in their sleep. I'd even say there's a fair few PCs out there for whom that wouldn't be all that unusual of a choice for them. But the vast, vast, vast majority of players won't permit that choice, because it wouldn't be entertaining. It would be annoying and frustrating and sour the experience. [/QUOTE]

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