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<blockquote data-quote="Col_Pladoh" data-source="post: 171341" data-attributes="member: 796">Good stuff here!The press gangs were indeed legal, for army units too. their operation isn't germane to a medieval-renaissance RPG campaign, but one set in a period similar to our historical 18th-19th centuries could well have such a factor.C.S. Forrester's &quot;Hornblower&quot; series--11 books in all, IIRC, is one of my all time favorites.Shanghaiing is not like the press. It is an illegal taking of persons for service aboard a merchant vessel, not a warship, It happened a lot in San Francisco, as that was a main port for the China Trade.The US didn't win the War of 1812? Heh, and that's a laugh. The few American warships spanked the Brits roundly, and William James in his lengthy and defensive OCCURRENCES IN THE LATE NAVAL WAR OF 1812 (I think that's right...) attempts an apology for it. This was countered most ably by Theodore Roosevelt in his own THE NAVAL WAR OF 1812. The only real naval loss was when Shannon beat Chesapeake, the British ship well captained and veteran, the American newly fitted out, it's crew green.US privateers severely affected British merchant shipping, and that won the war. What happened on land was pretty much a side show. Let us not forget the Battle of New Orleans (Chalmette) either, albeit the war was over when it was fought. Those British regulars really took a beating there.Gary</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Col_Pladoh, post: 171341, member: 796"] Good stuff here! The press gangs were indeed legal, for army units too. their operation isn't germane to a medieval-renaissance RPG campaign, but one set in a period similar to our historical 18th-19th centuries could well have such a factor. C.S. Forrester's "Hornblower" series--11 books in all, IIRC, is one of my all time favorites. Shanghaiing is not like the press. It is an illegal taking of persons for service aboard a merchant vessel, not a warship, It happened a lot in San Francisco, as that was a main port for the China Trade. The US didn't win the War of 1812? Heh, and that's a laugh. The few American warships spanked the Brits roundly, and William James in his lengthy and defensive OCCURRENCES IN THE LATE NAVAL WAR OF 1812 (I think that's right...) attempts an apology for it. This was countered most ably by Theodore Roosevelt in his own THE NAVAL WAR OF 1812. The only real naval loss was when Shannon beat Chesapeake, the British ship well captained and veteran, the American newly fitted out, it's crew green. US privateers severely affected British merchant shipping, and that won the war. What happened on land was pretty much a side show. Let us not forget the Battle of New Orleans (Chalmette) either, albeit the war was over when it was fought. Those British regulars really took a beating there. Gary [/QUOTE]

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