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Message: <blockquote data-quote="billd91" data-source="post: 9825409" data-attributes="member: 3400">I prefer rolling in general. I like to have my character revealed to me - or at least certain aspects of the character - so then I can see what I can make of them.For other pro-rolling arguments, I do have a couple:1) The stat values are independent variables. One isn't higher because one is lower (and vice versa) - a tradeoff that's always inherent in point-buy systems, particularly one with such a narrow set of characteristics to buy (just 6). I think it works better if the whole PC is purchased with points and everything trades off against everything else - such as in Mutants and Masterminds, Champions, and GURPS. Six characteristics and no skills, powers, traits, or anything else is too few to make the exercise worthwhile.2) Point-buy exacerbates the problems you see when some classes are SAD and others MAD. The discrepancies between SAD and MAD characters is, I think, not improved compared to the discrepancies between a lucky and an unlucky set of rolls when stats are rolled that so many people are complaining about. And worse, it isn't luck that's behind it, it's a systematic problem that penalizes MAD characters with the scarcity of points in the budget.I think this was really obvious with 3e, and I've been wary of point-buy ever since.</blockquote>