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<blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6580722" data-attributes="member: 6787650">It's just about exactly as broken as a variant human with Mobile feat and Longstrider or Expeditious Retreat, and only slightly more broken than a straight-up vanilla Rogue. The point is: yeah, it's awesome when it works, but there should be a hefty fraction of scenarios in any campaign where it doesn't work 100%. &quot;The city is under attack! You heroes! Here, escort Princess Jasmine through the catacombs to safety!&quot; Ooops, kiting is now just a way to make sure enemies attack the Princess instead of you. Even just straight-up mechanical traps work as a threat that can't be kited.You don't do tactical variation because you are trying to nerf your party in particular. You build encounters against the platonic party (various pre-set builds/tactics in your head, not your actual party) so that the PCs can experience the consequences of their choices and be weaker or stronger against certain threats. But the platonic party should definitely include kiters, which is why I think all intelligent humanoids should carry missile weapons.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FormerlyHemlock, post: 6580722, member: 6787650"] It's just about exactly as broken as a variant human with Mobile feat and Longstrider or Expeditious Retreat, and only slightly more broken than a straight-up vanilla Rogue. The point is: yeah, it's awesome when it works, but there should be a hefty fraction of scenarios in any campaign where it doesn't work 100%. "The city is under attack! You heroes! Here, escort Princess Jasmine through the catacombs to safety!" Ooops, kiting is now just a way to make sure enemies attack the Princess instead of you. Even just straight-up mechanical traps work as a threat that can't be kited. You don't do tactical variation because you are trying to nerf your party in particular. You build encounters against the platonic party (various pre-set builds/tactics in your head, [I]not your actual party[/I]) so that the PCs can experience the consequences of their choices and be weaker or stronger against certain threats. But the platonic party should definitely include kiters, which is why I think all intelligent humanoids should carry missile weapons. [/QUOTE]

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