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<blockquote data-quote="DND_Reborn" data-source="post: 8703330" data-attributes="member: 6987520">Sure, your &quot;range&quot; is effectively from -1 to +17 (barring magic)But, do you really want the dump stat-no proficiency (DSNP) guy to be able to accomplish nearly impossible tasks?As opposed to your high stat-proficiency-possible expertise (HSPPE) guy, who should be able to do them with at least a reasonable chance of success?Of course, which leads to my questions above. Each DM will have their own metric of success that they feel works. I feel the default values in the PHB are too high to reflect my metric.I am fine with the alternate table I posted or the blanket -5.Using the table values. A very easy is DC 2, which the DSNP guy would fail 10% of the time. Sure, it is very easy, but they have no ability to support the task nor proficiency. Looking at the rest of the task levels (with total modifiers):[ATTACH=full]254980[/ATTACH]To me those percentages look about right. A 1st-level PC with Ability 16 and proficiency will likely (80%) succeed at a Medium Task, but a Very Hard task is looking less likely (40%), but they have a reasonable chance (20%) of doing the Nearly Impossible, even at 1st level.By the time they get to tier 4 (if they get there LOL!), that Nearly Impossible task is 50/50.Make them the &quot;best of the best&quot; with expertise (if applicable) and you get an astounding 80% for Nearly Impossible tasks! That's HEROIC in my book! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="DND_Reborn, post: 8703330, member: 6987520"] Sure, your "range" is effectively from -1 to +17 (barring magic) But, do you really want the dump stat-no proficiency (DSNP) guy to be able to accomplish nearly impossible tasks? As opposed to your high stat-proficiency-possible expertise (HSPPE) guy, who should be able to do them with at least a reasonable chance of success? Of course, which leads to my questions above. Each DM will have their own metric of success that they feel works. I feel the default values in the PHB are too high to reflect my metric. I am fine with the alternate table I posted or the blanket -5. Using the table values. A very easy is DC 2, which the DSNP guy would fail 10% of the time. Sure, it is very easy, but they have no ability to support the task nor proficiency. Looking at the rest of the task levels (with total modifiers): [ATTACH type="full" width="567px"]254980[/ATTACH] To me those percentages look about right. A 1st-level PC with Ability 16 and proficiency will likely (80%) succeed at a Medium Task, but a Very Hard task is looking less likely (40%), but they have a reasonable chance (20%) of doing the Nearly Impossible, even at 1st level. By the time they get to tier 4 (if they get there LOL!), that Nearly Impossible task is 50/50. Make them the "best of the best" with expertise (if applicable) and you get an astounding 80% for Nearly Impossible tasks! That's HEROIC in my book! :) [/QUOTE]

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