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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6788044" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>This sort of question is why I won't touch this topic at any depth, any more than I would touch, "What is the alignment of these real world political figures?", but...</p><p></p><p>By every measure, Norway is much more lawful than Mexico, whether we mean civic minded, rule of law, or lack of corruption. </p><p></p><p>Real world cultures however tend to be complex and shifting, and most large nations (which Mexico qualifies as) are actually made up of multiple smaller cultural traditions each of which has their own distinct and sometimes contrasting view point. Obviously, some people won't align with any of those cultural traditions, but the point is that large numbers of people will and will therefore have certain predictable opinions.</p><p></p><p>Sure, there are some senses in which the economics of a nation can't be approximated exactly by the economics of a single household or person, but I hold with Hamilton that the rough approximation is still pretty close and pretty useful. In the same sense, the culture of a nation can't be approximated by the culture of a single person, but as a rough approximation you can still draw some useful abstractions.</p><p></p><p>Way back in the day when I was interested in simulating 'ruling a D&D kingdom', I described nations by the combination of their overall alignment and the overall alignment of their ruling class. And for each ruling class their tended to be a dissident faction whose size depended on the overall contentedness of the society. Large nations would require description of their individual regions, each with their own subcultures. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No. A free market economy is predicated on the idea that each person will willingly serve his fellow man to their advantage if it is also in his self-interest to do so, and in doing so they will produce greater benefits to all parties than if they are forced to serve for the advantage of other. The basic idea of capitalism is that compassion is in most cases aligned with and not against self-interest. </p><p></p><p>Please read Adam Smith and other early Liberal economists before spouting this sort of crap.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6788044, member: 4937"] This sort of question is why I won't touch this topic at any depth, any more than I would touch, "What is the alignment of these real world political figures?", but... By every measure, Norway is much more lawful than Mexico, whether we mean civic minded, rule of law, or lack of corruption. Real world cultures however tend to be complex and shifting, and most large nations (which Mexico qualifies as) are actually made up of multiple smaller cultural traditions each of which has their own distinct and sometimes contrasting view point. Obviously, some people won't align with any of those cultural traditions, but the point is that large numbers of people will and will therefore have certain predictable opinions. Sure, there are some senses in which the economics of a nation can't be approximated exactly by the economics of a single household or person, but I hold with Hamilton that the rough approximation is still pretty close and pretty useful. In the same sense, the culture of a nation can't be approximated by the culture of a single person, but as a rough approximation you can still draw some useful abstractions. Way back in the day when I was interested in simulating 'ruling a D&D kingdom', I described nations by the combination of their overall alignment and the overall alignment of their ruling class. And for each ruling class their tended to be a dissident faction whose size depended on the overall contentedness of the society. Large nations would require description of their individual regions, each with their own subcultures. No. A free market economy is predicated on the idea that each person will willingly serve his fellow man to their advantage if it is also in his self-interest to do so, and in doing so they will produce greater benefits to all parties than if they are forced to serve for the advantage of other. The basic idea of capitalism is that compassion is in most cases aligned with and not against self-interest. Please read Adam Smith and other early Liberal economists before spouting this sort of crap. [/QUOTE]
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