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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Carpe DM" data-source="post: 3926577" data-attributes="member: 677">There's a lot of good advice here, I won't repeat it.What I do want to point out is that you clearly love D&D and enjoy your friends.  As far as I can tell, you drive two hours on a weeknight to play in the single crappiest game I've heard tell of.  People like you either DM, or quit and try to maintain contact with the friends.So, some alternatives.  Some of these are good.  Some are bad.  I'm just thinking out loud to give you options.1. Munchkin card game.  The card game is a ball, goes well with B&B (brews & buddies), and gives you that old first edition kill-the-monster, loot-your-buddy feel. 2. Compete.  Run a game that night "for a break," and see if the other players don't enjoy that one more.3. Don't communicate.  I know, Oprah says communication is for the win.  But she's wrong.  Negative communication with friends is a terrible idea.  Communication will just make the DM pissed and sad, and you will end up losing the goodwill you need to get the DM to be a player in your Munchkin or alternative D&D game.  So communication is not a good option if you stay, and communication is not necessary if you go.  Save communication for your wife, your kids, and the cops (once you've lawyered up).4. Offer to help.  If it's a sandbox game, then switching up DMs couldn't hurt.  The DM doesn't have time to prep, he may want the help.5. Bring your wife.  Ask your friends to bring their wives.  I don't know why that may change things, but it was a thought I had.  The tables with women at them are just different somehow.  We almost always play now with a group of married couples.6. Exercise the power of a player.  Good players are baby DMs.  Do you have a story you want to tell?  Start having your character search for the hook that will take you there.  The GM needs material.  Feed it to him.7. Play a MMORPG.  It's a community, and it will break you of your need for the other community.  I don't recommend this, but it will work, and the way you will know it will work is when you don't care about the pen and paper game any more.best of luck,Carpe</blockquote>

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