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<blockquote data-quote="Malin Genie" data-source="post: 789310" data-attributes="member: 1058">You could just live with the fact that they are cross-class and your bonus won't be as high as if they were class skills.&nbsp; Invest a couple of Feats in Skill Focus to reflect the fact that you are, well, focussing on those skills!In a PBP I am playing a Shaman; without using Cosmopolitan (a FR regional Feat not really applicable to an oriental campaign) I still get +10 Bluff, +10 Sense Motive and +14 Intimidate at 7th level with only 16 Charisma (Skill Focus: Intimidate; Persuasive; Skill Focus: Sense Motive)&nbsp; Do I really need much more than that to meet my character's concept of being able to read others like a book, being inscrutable and downright scary when she needs to be?With 20 Charisma and synergy bonuses a 7th level sorceror can have +14 to Diplomacy, or +16 with Skill Focus (or Trustworthy, from Song and Silence.)&nbsp; Do you honestly need much more than that to meet your character concept of being oily, greasy, and able to talk your way our of a lynching at the hands of the angry mob to whom you just sold the snake oil?&nbsp; Even three or four cross-class ranks, if you focus on Cha (and possibly even get a Cha-boosting item) can get you a very decent bonus.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Malin Genie, post: 789310, member: 1058"] You could just live with the fact that they are cross-class and your bonus won't be [i]as[/i] high as if they were class skills. Invest a couple of Feats in Skill Focus to reflect the fact that you are, well, focussing on those skills! In a PBP I am playing a Shaman; without using Cosmopolitan (a FR regional Feat not really applicable to an oriental campaign) I still get +10 Bluff, +10 Sense Motive and +14 Intimidate at 7th level with only 16 Charisma (Skill Focus: Intimidate; Persuasive; Skill Focus: Sense Motive) Do I really need much more than that to meet my character's concept of being able to read others like a book, being inscrutable and downright scary when she needs to be? With 20 Charisma and synergy bonuses a 7th level sorceror can have +14 to Diplomacy, or +16 with Skill Focus (or Trustworthy, from Song and Silence.) Do you honestly need much more than that to meet your character concept of being oily, greasy, and able to talk your way our of a lynching at the hands of the angry mob to whom you just sold the snake oil? Even three or four cross-class ranks, if you focus on Cha (and possibly even get a Cha-boosting item) can get you a very decent bonus. [/QUOTE]

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