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<blockquote data-quote="RFisher" data-source="post: 3673437" data-attributes="member: 3608"><p>Hmm. As a recovering rules-lawyer myself... (^_^)</p><p></p><p>I suppose I could suggest trying a campaign with a ultra-light rules system. That's part of what I do to keep my inner-rules-lawyer in check: Give him fewer rules to play with. That's probably more covering up the problem than dealing with it, though.</p><p></p><p>I guess I'd try to discuss it out of game. Try to get him to see your point of view. Try not to be judgemental. Try not to take issue with his actions so much as to address the issues he has with how you run the game.</p><p></p><p>Ask him to give you a break. Explain that DMing is a big responsibility and that you really are doing the best that you can.</p><p></p><p>Also, be sure that you really listen to his opinions (both in game and out), and try to not appear preumptively dismissive. During the game, look for opportunities to leverage his rules knowledge by asking him about a rule you may be unclear about. Ask him to offer his advice rather than revel in your mistakes, but be clear that--while you will promise to truly consider his advice--you may have reasons for not taking it.</p><p></p><p>I think one of the best things you can do is try to use a more open style. Assume that the players can handle separating themselves from their PCs (whether they can or not). Let them see "behind the curtain". While the rules-lawyer may not agree with your decisions, he'll have a easier time accepting them if you let him see the whole picture. Now, I understand all the reasons you may have for <em>not</em> wanting to do this. It may be worth it--at least for a time--if it means improving the experience for everyone without losing a player.</p><p></p><p>While he may ultimately leave the group, I think it's best to let that happen on its own. If you're confrontational about it, you're more likely to reinforce his idea that his way is right & your way is wrong rather than helping him eventually realize that he needs to consider the point of view of others more and give people the benefit of the doubt more.</p><p></p><p>Hope something there helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RFisher, post: 3673437, member: 3608"] Hmm. As a recovering rules-lawyer myself... (^_^) I suppose I could suggest trying a campaign with a ultra-light rules system. That's part of what I do to keep my inner-rules-lawyer in check: Give him fewer rules to play with. That's probably more covering up the problem than dealing with it, though. I guess I'd try to discuss it out of game. Try to get him to see your point of view. Try not to be judgemental. Try not to take issue with his actions so much as to address the issues he has with how you run the game. Ask him to give you a break. Explain that DMing is a big responsibility and that you really are doing the best that you can. Also, be sure that you really listen to his opinions (both in game and out), and try to not appear preumptively dismissive. During the game, look for opportunities to leverage his rules knowledge by asking him about a rule you may be unclear about. Ask him to offer his advice rather than revel in your mistakes, but be clear that--while you will promise to truly consider his advice--you may have reasons for not taking it. I think one of the best things you can do is try to use a more open style. Assume that the players can handle separating themselves from their PCs (whether they can or not). Let them see "behind the curtain". While the rules-lawyer may not agree with your decisions, he'll have a easier time accepting them if you let him see the whole picture. Now, I understand all the reasons you may have for [i]not[/i] wanting to do this. It may be worth it--at least for a time--if it means improving the experience for everyone without losing a player. While he may ultimately leave the group, I think it's best to let that happen on its own. If you're confrontational about it, you're more likely to reinforce his idea that his way is right & your way is wrong rather than helping him eventually realize that he needs to consider the point of view of others more and give people the benefit of the doubt more. Hope something there helps. [/QUOTE]
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