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<blockquote data-quote="Harmon" data-source="post: 3674362" data-attributes="member: 24357"><p>Noted, and a very good point. In proper and good leadership (GMs are the leaders at the gaming table) you never reprimand another person in front of others, that is very true. </p><p></p><p>My reasoning for doing this in front of the others though is- The OP seems to imply that the Rules Lawyer is doing this regularly and everyone is aware of the problem Player, so my thinking is that doing so (in front of everyone), first says- 'everyone here is aware of the situation, and that they are more then likely suffering through it, by me declaring this in front of everyone I am replacing your dominance of the game with My GM Law.'</p><p></p><p>I do agree with you, a personal one on one should be done first in 99% of all leadership, but seldom have I seen this kind of person back off after a one on one, usually they just start up again a week later. Getting this out there in the group, lets everyone know that you are taking control of the problem and that it will no longer be a problem in the group.</p><p></p><p>I have been with the same group for eighteen years now, and gamed with perhaps two dozen others gamers, I haven't got a lot of experience with problem players (cause we have always just not invited them back), but I have been a Foremen, and a Leadman on construction sites. When I would get a Know it All on the job site I would either make him my assistant (if I was a Foremen he'd be my Leadman) or Ditch Digging Boy- it depended on what he knew and how he handled knowing it.</p><p></p><p>(A guy that comes in rubbing information in my face would get a lay off check no matter what he knew, while a guy that spoke up and told me that I had missed something got the $.50 raise you get with being a Leadman.)</p><p></p><p>I apologize if I come off a little brash, its not my intent, this thread seems to have some flickers of flames and I have no intentions of feeding that, I am just trying to help the OP and any that see similar problems with their groups. Should we acquire a Rules Lawyer I will try to one on one approach first (at your recommendation), but I as I have said- my experience shows that calling him out in front of the group is the only way to get him to settle down.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Harmon, post: 3674362, member: 24357"] Noted, and a very good point. In proper and good leadership (GMs are the leaders at the gaming table) you never reprimand another person in front of others, that is very true. My reasoning for doing this in front of the others though is- The OP seems to imply that the Rules Lawyer is doing this regularly and everyone is aware of the problem Player, so my thinking is that doing so (in front of everyone), first says- 'everyone here is aware of the situation, and that they are more then likely suffering through it, by me declaring this in front of everyone I am replacing your dominance of the game with My GM Law.' I do agree with you, a personal one on one should be done first in 99% of all leadership, but seldom have I seen this kind of person back off after a one on one, usually they just start up again a week later. Getting this out there in the group, lets everyone know that you are taking control of the problem and that it will no longer be a problem in the group. I have been with the same group for eighteen years now, and gamed with perhaps two dozen others gamers, I haven't got a lot of experience with problem players (cause we have always just not invited them back), but I have been a Foremen, and a Leadman on construction sites. When I would get a Know it All on the job site I would either make him my assistant (if I was a Foremen he'd be my Leadman) or Ditch Digging Boy- it depended on what he knew and how he handled knowing it. (A guy that comes in rubbing information in my face would get a lay off check no matter what he knew, while a guy that spoke up and told me that I had missed something got the $.50 raise you get with being a Leadman.) I apologize if I come off a little brash, its not my intent, this thread seems to have some flickers of flames and I have no intentions of feeding that, I am just trying to help the OP and any that see similar problems with their groups. Should we acquire a Rules Lawyer I will try to one on one approach first (at your recommendation), but I as I have said- my experience shows that calling him out in front of the group is the only way to get him to settle down. [/QUOTE]
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