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<blockquote data-quote="GreyICE" data-source="post: 6012863" data-attributes="member: 6684526">Oh come on, the first one is no fun at all!&nbsp; Let the NPCs give him back the paper, tell him that they solved it.&nbsp; Then it turns out that they actually turned around and sold the information AND the fact the PCs were using it for twice what he paid them.&nbsp; Oh and there's an ambush now!Spells/Abilities targeting things other than enemies outside combat situations and having effects is a fairly standard house rule.&nbsp; Like by rules as written if you use Scorching Burst in a barn full of hay, then nothing happens to the hay because Scorching burst targets creatures and hay is not a creature.&nbsp; Most DMs rule that spells and abilities impact the environment for exactly that reason, and he may have simply been using that rule so long he forgot that it explicitly needs to be in effect.&nbsp; DMG2 and the Rules Compendium even discuss improvisational uses of spells and powers.Also, Magic Missile is Range 20, I don't know what the hell you need to shoot outside 100 ft.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GreyICE, post: 6012863, member: 6684526"] Oh come on, the first one is no fun at all! Let the NPCs give him back the paper, tell him that they solved it. Then it turns out that they actually turned around and sold the information AND the fact the PCs were using it for twice what he paid them. Oh and there's an ambush now! Spells/Abilities targeting things other than enemies outside combat situations and having effects is a fairly standard house rule. Like by rules as written if you use Scorching Burst in a barn full of hay, then nothing happens to the hay because Scorching burst targets creatures and hay is not a creature. Most DMs rule that spells and abilities impact the environment for exactly that reason, and he may have simply been using that rule so long he forgot that it explicitly needs to be in effect. DMG2 and the Rules Compendium even discuss improvisational uses of spells and powers. Also, Magic Missile is Range 20, I don't know what the hell you need to shoot outside 100 ft. [/QUOTE]

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