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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9501907">It is an inconsistancy which leads to confusion, certainly.I also think the designers should reinforce the game mechanics in the wording:By taking the Utilize action, a character with thieves' tools can use them to try to open the lock, doing so with a successful DC 18 Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check.Another helpful thing would be if text under Tools specified the DCs shown are "typical" and not absolute.Obviously given every example we know of, they did chain it to Sleight of Hands in practice.And if, as I mentioned above, it was giving as a "most often used" example of Sleight of Hands under the Skills information, there would be no doubt of the two being chained together.Which is why I'll say again: It is an inconsistancy which leads to confusion, certainly.What I wonder is this: does a tool proficiency allow you to add your proficiency bonus still RAW? I would think so. But then the implication is you can pick a lock either by making a Dexterity (Sleight of Hand) check OR a Dexterity (Thieves' tools) check?I can more easily see someone who is proficiecnt in Thieves' tools picking a lock than just having Sleight of Hand proficiecny. Tool proficiency, IMO, includes knowledge of the things you are intereacting with... the mechanisms of locks and traps. Having extra training in Sleight of Hand doesn't imply that to me AT ALL!Frankly, I will never use Sleight of Hand for picking a lock or disarming a trap. What is the point of tool proficiencies if we don't use them and default everything to a skill instead?</blockquote>

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