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<blockquote data-quote="Dr. Strangemonkey" data-source="post: 632850" data-attributes="member: 6533"><p>Wow!!! Most useful/fun thread ever!!!</p><p></p><p>Some of these posts are going to end up on my wall:</p><p></p><p>"Good responses to hazardous situations = treasure. Bad responses to tactical situation = poverty and embarassment."</p><p></p><p>If I don't get some sort of NPC to scream this at his minions I will regret it for the rest of my life. I may in fact get it cross-stitched on a pillow.</p><p></p><p>And I will listen to the Sialla for she is wise. In fact, I think a lot of what's been said in the last few posts will chime in nicely with some of what I've planned and has been said earlier. Their new employer isn't exactly nice and I can easily picture him sending nuisance threats their way. Not too mention I now cannot wait to loot the PCs. The villain who does that will be doomed in ways I cannot even begin to describe, but they players will be so into it that they will have the time of their lives.</p><p></p><p>Oh and:</p><p></p><p>"Getting nearly killed is one thing--almost anything can be healed-- having the enemy loot (or tattoo, or shave, or plant eggs in) your bodies while you are unconcious--that hurts." </p><p></p><p>Is so going to be some graffitti they find in a dungeon of despair some place.</p><p></p><p>Yea, Ashy!!!</p><p></p><p>I actually just picked up Minions and Plains both of which have put loads of new info and ideas in my head.</p><p></p><p>Also the very situation that provoked this thread was the final fight between Zul's council and the PCs. Mind you I had restatted the council since another player was borrowing the book to create a character, and they had come up with the clever idea of following the water system through the place as opposed to using the stairs from the entrance level down, so I had to come up with a medium sized black dragon that Zul was using to police the pipes. Still the fight itself played out proper with the council wading in while Zul looked on with amusement and eventually troops were summoned. </p><p></p><p>But they just kept dying in that council fight. Wouldn't take cover, one of them kept charging Zul and getting despair auraed, and never used any buff spells. They had haste potions and healing potions and kept just taking healing potions until I pointed out to one that taking the haste before the heal would be ever so much more effective. Forunately they'd picked up the Ort cleric from earlier in the campaign. He's turned into such a great character that I'm statting him tonight.</p><p></p><p>They also fell for the teleport trap even after Zul was gone figuring it must have lead to a treasure room, course there was a natural 1 roll involved.</p><p></p><p>The upshot was they barely defeated Zul and his council and walked away with his treasury-that portable hole is filled up I don't care what they claim- leaving the rest of his army fleeing from the massive black pudding that was created when they foollisly pulled the 'general alert' chain. Their toasting of the slaves is why Flollo is transferring them to a 'special' branch of his administration.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dr. Strangemonkey, post: 632850, member: 6533"] Wow!!! Most useful/fun thread ever!!! Some of these posts are going to end up on my wall: "Good responses to hazardous situations = treasure. Bad responses to tactical situation = poverty and embarassment." If I don't get some sort of NPC to scream this at his minions I will regret it for the rest of my life. I may in fact get it cross-stitched on a pillow. And I will listen to the Sialla for she is wise. In fact, I think a lot of what's been said in the last few posts will chime in nicely with some of what I've planned and has been said earlier. Their new employer isn't exactly nice and I can easily picture him sending nuisance threats their way. Not too mention I now cannot wait to loot the PCs. The villain who does that will be doomed in ways I cannot even begin to describe, but they players will be so into it that they will have the time of their lives. Oh and: "Getting nearly killed is one thing--almost anything can be healed-- having the enemy loot (or tattoo, or shave, or plant eggs in) your bodies while you are unconcious--that hurts." Is so going to be some graffitti they find in a dungeon of despair some place. Yea, Ashy!!! I actually just picked up Minions and Plains both of which have put loads of new info and ideas in my head. Also the very situation that provoked this thread was the final fight between Zul's council and the PCs. Mind you I had restatted the council since another player was borrowing the book to create a character, and they had come up with the clever idea of following the water system through the place as opposed to using the stairs from the entrance level down, so I had to come up with a medium sized black dragon that Zul was using to police the pipes. Still the fight itself played out proper with the council wading in while Zul looked on with amusement and eventually troops were summoned. But they just kept dying in that council fight. Wouldn't take cover, one of them kept charging Zul and getting despair auraed, and never used any buff spells. They had haste potions and healing potions and kept just taking healing potions until I pointed out to one that taking the haste before the heal would be ever so much more effective. Forunately they'd picked up the Ort cleric from earlier in the campaign. He's turned into such a great character that I'm statting him tonight. They also fell for the teleport trap even after Zul was gone figuring it must have lead to a treasure room, course there was a natural 1 roll involved. The upshot was they barely defeated Zul and his council and walked away with his treasury-that portable hole is filled up I don't care what they claim- leaving the rest of his army fleeing from the massive black pudding that was created when they foollisly pulled the 'general alert' chain. Their toasting of the slaves is why Flollo is transferring them to a 'special' branch of his administration. [/QUOTE]
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