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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 9764732" data-attributes="member: 93670">Entitlement?   I mentioned my experience with the group in question because the accusations I got for simply enforcing the rules of the game I offered to run when they differed from a game I didn't offer to run were eerily similar to some of the examples in this thread in ways that made it relevant to the bad extended anslogy. Beyond entitlement?... There is a large segment of ttrpg players that started in the last decade...  For better or worse that started them with an undeniably <a href="https://youtu.be/W90bIdMHqMQ?t=185" target="_blank">skewed view of acceptable mindset</a> towards the meat computer providing the service of <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tr5gtvvkTe4&t=156s" target="_blank">epic story teller event coordinator & life coach</a> at the table for their enjoyment. This thread provides a pretty good example of that where all of the examples very much look like standard levelup5e rules as written. The 44 rules drama when the internet piled on a seemingly abused GM's' response to reaching their last straw with a group they had it with is another good case where the GM was automatically guilty until proven innocent & toxic player behavior entirely ignored a year or so back.I tried pretty hard to find it but someone made a post a (long) while back with a great analogy about party planning as a service vrs party host & how that kind of shift encourages a tptally different set of expectations from the service provider.  Think it was back around the "dm crisis" thing but my googlefu was lacking.  It's not uncommon for players to leverage that shield in an effort to <a href="https://youtu.be/w54pYPG30HA?t=2439" target="_blank">overtlyl subvert the game</a>.</blockquote>

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