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<blockquote data-quote="Esker" data-source="post: 7610270" data-attributes="member: 6966824"><p>There's no doubt that archery fighting style is useful, but I think getting an extra attack has a better synergy with sharpshooter. Obviously it'd be great to have both, but in terms of priorities...</p><p></p><p>At level 10, let's compare Xbow expert and Rogue 10 to archery style Rogue 9 / Fighter 1, assuming elven accuracy, maxed DEX, and advantage on one attack only:</p><p></p><p>DPR by enemy AC: (Xbow / archery)</p><p></p><p>AC 14: 35.9 / 30.1</p><p>AC 15: 35.4 / 30.0</p><p>AC 16: 34.9 / 29.9</p><p>AC 17: 34.1 / 29.7</p><p>AC 18: 33.3 / 29.4</p><p>AC 19: 32.4 / 29.0</p><p>AC 20: 31.4 / 28.4</p><p></p><p>So Xbow expert provides more damage at level 10 and allows two targets, but has shorter range and prevents cunning action hide. The damage is close enough that you could well be better off with archery style if you find yourself needing a longer range and/or find that your owl is going down often.</p><p></p><p>Now let's go to level 11, and compare Xbow Rogue 11 to Archery+SS Rogue 10 / Fighter 1. The single classed build gets an extra sneak attack die (and reliable talent!), but the multiclass build is in a good position to get a net gain from SS power attacks.</p><p></p><p>DPR by enemy AC: (Xbow / archery + SS)</p><p></p><p>AC 14: 39.9 / 38.6</p><p>AC 15: 39.3 / 37.8</p><p>AC 16: 38.7 / 36.8</p><p>AC 17: 38.1 / 35.5</p><p>AC 18: 37.3 / 34.0</p><p>AC 19: 36.3 / 32.1</p><p>AC 20: 35.2 / 30.0</p><p></p><p>(by the way, power attack is a gain at all of these ACs so it's not that the SS character can do better by switching to a regular attack against tough-to-hit enemies)</p><p></p><p>So again, there are tradeoffs other than DPR here, but Xbow expert and an extra sneak attack die wins over archery+SS.</p><p></p><p>Gotta step away now, but will pick this up later with further progression analysis...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Esker, post: 7610270, member: 6966824"] There's no doubt that archery fighting style is useful, but I think getting an extra attack has a better synergy with sharpshooter. Obviously it'd be great to have both, but in terms of priorities... At level 10, let's compare Xbow expert and Rogue 10 to archery style Rogue 9 / Fighter 1, assuming elven accuracy, maxed DEX, and advantage on one attack only: DPR by enemy AC: (Xbow / archery) AC 14: 35.9 / 30.1 AC 15: 35.4 / 30.0 AC 16: 34.9 / 29.9 AC 17: 34.1 / 29.7 AC 18: 33.3 / 29.4 AC 19: 32.4 / 29.0 AC 20: 31.4 / 28.4 So Xbow expert provides more damage at level 10 and allows two targets, but has shorter range and prevents cunning action hide. The damage is close enough that you could well be better off with archery style if you find yourself needing a longer range and/or find that your owl is going down often. Now let's go to level 11, and compare Xbow Rogue 11 to Archery+SS Rogue 10 / Fighter 1. The single classed build gets an extra sneak attack die (and reliable talent!), but the multiclass build is in a good position to get a net gain from SS power attacks. DPR by enemy AC: (Xbow / archery + SS) AC 14: 39.9 / 38.6 AC 15: 39.3 / 37.8 AC 16: 38.7 / 36.8 AC 17: 38.1 / 35.5 AC 18: 37.3 / 34.0 AC 19: 36.3 / 32.1 AC 20: 35.2 / 30.0 (by the way, power attack is a gain at all of these ACs so it's not that the SS character can do better by switching to a regular attack against tough-to-hit enemies) So again, there are tradeoffs other than DPR here, but Xbow expert and an extra sneak attack die wins over archery+SS. Gotta step away now, but will pick this up later with further progression analysis... [/QUOTE]
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