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How do I pick up an item in an opponents square
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<blockquote data-quote="Dheran" data-source="post: 3405638" data-attributes="member: 49779"><p>I don't see how <em>Tumble</em> could help you with this. Picking up the weapon is a move action, according to the rules. While you're permitted to make two move actions in a round, you can't end up in an occupied square. I don't know of any feat that will let you split actual movement around another move action. So you can't actually move into the square, pick up the weapon, and leave in a single round. You wouldn't want to do it that way if you could help it, anyway (although if you're size tiny or smaller you wouldn't have any choice).</p><p></p><p>Assuming a natural 5' (or longer) reach, the Rogue would just reach into the square and pick up the weapon. This move action is going to provoke an AoO. But since the opponent has just been disarmed they won't threaten the Rogue unless they've got <ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">a weapon in their off hand <em>and</em> they've taken the two-weapon fighting penalty during their previous round,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">the <em>Improved Unarmed Strike</em> feat,</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">monk levels, or</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">some form of natural attack.</li> </ul><p> For most standard races and classes there will be no AoO. But if there <em>is</em> a successful AoO, retaining the weapon will require a <em>Concentration</em> check (DC = 10 + damage dealt).</p><p></p><p>One thing to keep in mind is that if this is a new round the Rogue can decide to go into total defense mode, burning a standard action for +6 to AC. The plan then would be: go into total defense as standard action, grab the dropped weapon as move action, then take 5' step away.</p><p> There's no attack going on, plus retrieving the dropped weapon is a move action, so <em>Spring Attack</em> doesn't work at all. I can't think of a valid "or something" that would let the Rogue avoid the AoO if the disarmed enemy still threatens.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dheran, post: 3405638, member: 49779"] I don't see how [I]Tumble[/I] could help you with this. Picking up the weapon is a move action, according to the rules. While you're permitted to make two move actions in a round, you can't end up in an occupied square. I don't know of any feat that will let you split actual movement around another move action. So you can't actually move into the square, pick up the weapon, and leave in a single round. You wouldn't want to do it that way if you could help it, anyway (although if you're size tiny or smaller you wouldn't have any choice). Assuming a natural 5' (or longer) reach, the Rogue would just reach into the square and pick up the weapon. This move action is going to provoke an AoO. But since the opponent has just been disarmed they won't threaten the Rogue unless they've got[list] [*]a weapon in their off hand [I]and[/I] they've taken the two-weapon fighting penalty during their previous round, [*]the [I]Improved Unarmed Strike[/I] feat, [*]monk levels, or [*]some form of natural attack.[/list] For most standard races and classes there will be no AoO. But if there [I]is[/I] a successful AoO, retaining the weapon will require a [I]Concentration[/I] check (DC = 10 + damage dealt). One thing to keep in mind is that if this is a new round the Rogue can decide to go into total defense mode, burning a standard action for +6 to AC. The plan then would be: go into total defense as standard action, grab the dropped weapon as move action, then take 5' step away. There's no attack going on, plus retrieving the dropped weapon is a move action, so [I]Spring Attack[/I] doesn't work at all. I can't think of a valid "or something" that would let the Rogue avoid the AoO if the disarmed enemy still threatens. [/QUOTE]
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