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How do I pick up an item in an opponents square
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<blockquote data-quote="Gerion of Mercadia" data-source="post: 3405723" data-attributes="member: 50527"><p>This is an excellent point; The character that has been disarmed may not threaten in the first place. Howver, His ally might threaten you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would you of necessity have to even try to this? I would argue that the item must be within your "reach", which is dictated by your size/battlefield footprint. Couldn't you do this from an adjacent square or (if you were size large) into a square that you could reach? I would appreciate someone defending the requirement that the item you are "picking up" has to be in the same square that you are in when you take the move action.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you are making this statement the way I think you are, you are starting the round in an adjacent square and/or a square into which you have reach.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I agree that one is not required - however you can make an attack with an unarmed strike and acquire a weapon. There is a precedent in the Disarm skill for this. As I stated before there is no prohibition against choosing to start a grapple against an unattended object. You aren't required to take an attack action by any means, but we are discussing the possibilities. The rules allow this "cheese" as written, which may be important for the character with a high BAB (specifically take a full attack action - "grapple" the unattended weapon, then hit somebody with said weapon).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Let Me try it this way - under concentration</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you have already taken damage from a sucessful AoO, you are doing the former. If your player has the sense to do so actively as part of his "move <strong>action</strong> - pick up an item"; you avoid the AoO in the first place; they are two separate circumstances. The DC of the latter is determined by what "rate of motion" you are at; 10, 15 or 20 - DM's call.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gerion of Mercadia, post: 3405723, member: 50527"] This is an excellent point; The character that has been disarmed may not threaten in the first place. Howver, His ally might threaten you. Why would you of necessity have to even try to this? I would argue that the item must be within your "reach", which is dictated by your size/battlefield footprint. Couldn't you do this from an adjacent square or (if you were size large) into a square that you could reach? I would appreciate someone defending the requirement that the item you are "picking up" has to be in the same square that you are in when you take the move action. If you are making this statement the way I think you are, you are starting the round in an adjacent square and/or a square into which you have reach. I agree that one is not required - however you can make an attack with an unarmed strike and acquire a weapon. There is a precedent in the Disarm skill for this. As I stated before there is no prohibition against choosing to start a grapple against an unattended object. You aren't required to take an attack action by any means, but we are discussing the possibilities. The rules allow this "cheese" as written, which may be important for the character with a high BAB (specifically take a full attack action - "grapple" the unattended weapon, then hit somebody with said weapon). Let Me try it this way - under concentration If you have already taken damage from a sucessful AoO, you are doing the former. If your player has the sense to do so actively as part of his "move [b]action[/b] - pick up an item"; you avoid the AoO in the first place; they are two separate circumstances. The DC of the latter is determined by what "rate of motion" you are at; 10, 15 or 20 - DM's call. [/QUOTE]
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