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<blockquote data-quote="RigaMortus2" data-source="post: 3406689" data-attributes="member: 11586">Just because there is an option to Attack an Object, doesn't mean you can grapple it.&nbsp; The two are not realted.&nbsp; That being said...I suppose you could grapple an inanimate object.&nbsp; Under the grapple rules it does not state you can only grapple a &quot;creature&quot;.&nbsp; It does mention you make grapple checks against an opponent though.&nbsp; And since there is no in-game term to define what an opponent is, I suppose a lenient DM might allow you to declare an inanimate object an opponent.So, let's take a look at exactly what happens when we try to grapple a sword (to use as an example of our inanimate object).Lucky for us, our target can not fight back, so while we technically still provoke an AoO against the sword, it can't make one.The touch AC of a sword lying on the ground is very easy to hit.&nbsp; I think it's around AC 5 or so.Well, the sword can't make a grapple check.&nbsp; I would consider this the same thing as grappling a stunned or dazed opponent.Roll them dice and see if you penatrate the hardness and do any damage to the sword (probably not)So you move into the square that the sword is in.&nbsp; If there is an enemy in that square, you'll provoke an AoO from him.&nbsp; Also, the DM may argue that you can not occupy the same space as another creature (one which you are not grappling with), which leads us to:So after all that, your grapple check fails anyway...But, let's take it a step further and say our DM is REALLLY lenient...&nbsp; He is allowing us to grapple this sword while in the same square as an opponent.&nbsp; Now what are our options when grappling our target (the sword)?Seems like you are giving up WAY too much trying to use the grapple rules in explaining how you are grappling (ie picking up) an item.&nbsp; Personally, I'd just stick with the Move Action &quot;Pick up an Item&quot; option.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="RigaMortus2, post: 3406689, member: 11586"] Just because there is an option to Attack an Object, doesn't mean you can grapple it. The two are not realted. That being said... I suppose you could grapple an inanimate object. Under the grapple rules it does not state you can only grapple a "creature". It does mention you make grapple checks against an opponent though. And since there is no in-game term to define what an opponent is, I suppose a lenient DM might allow you to declare an inanimate object an opponent. So, let's take a look at exactly what happens when we try to grapple a sword (to use as an example of our inanimate object). Lucky for us, our target can not fight back, so while we technically still provoke an AoO against the sword, it can't make one. The touch AC of a sword lying on the ground is very easy to hit. I think it's around AC 5 or so. Well, the sword can't make a grapple check. I would consider this the same thing as grappling a stunned or dazed opponent. Roll them dice and see if you penatrate the hardness and do any damage to the sword (probably not) So you move into the square that the sword is in. If there is an enemy in that square, you'll provoke an AoO from him. Also, the DM may argue that you can not occupy the same space as another creature (one which you are not grappling with), which leads us to: So after all that, your grapple check fails anyway... But, let's take it a step further and say our DM is REALLLY lenient... He is allowing us to grapple this sword while in the same square as an opponent. Now what are our options when grappling our target (the sword)? Seems like you are giving up WAY too much trying to use the grapple rules in explaining how you are grappling (ie picking up) an item. Personally, I'd just stick with the Move Action "Pick up an Item" option. [/QUOTE]

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