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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 2285797" data-attributes="member: 141">iwatt's suggestion started some wheels turning;This would be an ability for a mid to high level monk (at least 9th level).Run on Water (Ex): Instead of the normal bonuses or penalties due to movement, you get a bonus to your balance checks equal to your base movement rate.  If you do not get a 20 foot running start this bonus is halved.  Walking on water is a DC 90 balance check.This would allow the kind of tree-fighting stuff as well, but the branches can't be too thin.  Furthermore, if you allow the bonus to apply to jump checks, you can easily get a wuxia kind of feel; monks will be able to get from the floor to a 20 foot balcony fairly easily using the high jump rules (DC 80).  I would rule that a surface that the monk could run against/bounce off of (within 5 feet) would allow the jump distances to be doubled; this would allow monks to run up fairly high walls, or across low ceilings.  The power would thus be described thus:Wuxia (Ex): Instead of the normal bonuses or penalties due to movement, you get an enhancement bonus to your balance checks equal to your base movement rate.  If you do not get a 20 foot running start this bonus is halved.  Walking on water is a DC 90 balance check. The same bonus applies to your jump checks.  You can jump twice as high as normal if you have a surface within 5 feet that you can run up/bounce off of.I wouldn't ever allow the bonus to apply to tumble checks- the main use of tumble is to get through opponents without provoking an attack of opportunity, and a huge bonus would make this far too easy.The water-walking pretty much requires a base speed of 60+, which is in line with Staffan's remark.  A speed of 90+ makes it possible to run across clouds (balance DC 120).How does this sound?</blockquote>

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