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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ace" data-source="post: 2372415" data-attributes="member: 944">I agree with you here. I realized I forgot the tax bite but was too lazy to fix my post. Worse we get low value on a $ per $ basis. High taxes are rarely good but if other expenses are lowered (food subsidy or socialized medicine) the effect is offset European countries have rather extensive social welfare and national health care for not that much more in taxes -- Also true. The question is how many women (or non working men) have relationships stable enough to have a near certitude that the spouse will support them? With a 50% marriage failure rate it is incumbant that everyone have a career. There is a good chance that one parent (usually the woman) can become soul breadwinner. If she (or he) takes the opportunity hit to not work the risk of impoverishment is really high --The US has some programs to help working mothers but no where enough since unskilled jobs pay so very little. And if she need daycare to work -- well there is a shortage of inexpensive options. A valid point but our society is consumption driven. Most of our media is paid for by adds, hell our whole public culture is commerce driven. Its little wonder people think they need moore and more Even beyond that  though anyone who works should get a decent portion of the pie. Since the "cool" stuff takes less time and effort input to make it is reasonable for a person to expect the same percentage of the total stuff -- if it takes 10 hours to make a widget in 1968 and 5 hours in 2005 it is reasonable that I can expect 2 Widgets Now in terms of real prosperity and speaking only of SO-CAL where I live the only truely outrageous costs are housing and utilities . Everything else is as cheap or  cheaper than most other places I have lived -- food (if you know where to shop) is dirt cheap -- Energy and Housing costs are high  (IMO)  because of policies keeping them that way -- In case of California housing  -- (simplified here)  large illegal and legal immigrant population and housing bubble effects  In energy -- (also simplified)  profit concerns {Frex Anahiem  city power costs one third to  half what Con ed does} and unavoidable energy costsI will refrain from offering solutions though if you relply let me know if you want to continue in E mail  other-- My solutions are pure polotics and that violates forum rules I think I have bent them a enough  already <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh    :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /></blockquote>

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