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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Shey" data-source="post: 8596215" data-attributes="member: 7026617">No, I pretty much stand by my statement CL.  While you'll get people who will throw false postives sometimes (usually with players who's attenna's have gotten oversensetive from experience) I've hit a few too many cases where I knew GMs who admitted they did it to me but thought their players didn't know, whereas when I talked to said players other times they casually mentioned realizing it on more than one occasion when I'd been aware it was the case.  Not all of them gave a damn, but it was abundantly clear that the GM thought they were better about this than was the case.  You see the same thing with GMs who think they're being clever with illusionism too whereas the players are like "Yeah, DM does that sometimes."  A lot of this comes up because the timing is liable to be when people are most alert, because most GMs are not fudging constantly (because, why would they?) but only on key occasions.Different people have different sensitivities to this, and once someone has noticed the GM does this, it can very well color all the other experiences he has with that GM.</blockquote>