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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8596522" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>Exactly.</p><p></p><p>Even if 90% of players are not outright negative about fudging, that means 10% <em>are</em> outright negative. Most D&D groups are a DM plus four or five players, so even if we use that 10% figure, only 59% of five-player groups (.9^5 = 0.59049) would be in the clear--still a majority, but far from a slam dunk no questions kind of thing. If we bump it up just a little, to 85% not-negative vs 15% negative, a five-player group has only a 44.4% (0.4437053125) chance of having zero concerned players. If it's as bad as this thread's poll implies (that is, only 95/134), then it's a (95/134)^5 = 17.9% chance that no one in a five-player group would have an issue, and a 25.3% chance that a four-player group wouldn't have at least one concerned player.</p><p></p><p>Point being: even if we presume this poll is MASSIVELY over-representing players outright opposed to fudging, the odds <em>someone</em> will be upset if you do it without telling them are sufficiently high that it <em>should</em> be something people talk about. But they don't. I have been told repeatedly in threads like this one--one of them on this very forum--that the DM <em>should not</em> tell their players that they fudge, ever, no matter what. That it should be a secret the DM keeps to their grave.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8596522, member: 6790260"] Exactly. Even if 90% of players are not outright negative about fudging, that means 10% [I]are[/I] outright negative. Most D&D groups are a DM plus four or five players, so even if we use that 10% figure, only 59% of five-player groups (.9^5 = 0.59049) would be in the clear--still a majority, but far from a slam dunk no questions kind of thing. If we bump it up just a little, to 85% not-negative vs 15% negative, a five-player group has only a 44.4% (0.4437053125) chance of having zero concerned players. If it's as bad as this thread's poll implies (that is, only 95/134), then it's a (95/134)^5 = 17.9% chance that no one in a five-player group would have an issue, and a 25.3% chance that a four-player group wouldn't have at least one concerned player. Point being: even if we presume this poll is MASSIVELY over-representing players outright opposed to fudging, the odds [I]someone[/I] will be upset if you do it without telling them are sufficiently high that it [I]should[/I] be something people talk about. But they don't. I have been told repeatedly in threads like this one--one of them on this very forum--that the DM [I]should not[/I] tell their players that they fudge, ever, no matter what. That it should be a secret the DM keeps to their grave. [/QUOTE]
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